Dies for 30x47

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Thinking of chambering a 30x47 with .330 neck and zero freebore. I have 30BR Redding seater and Harrell bushing sizer. Will these same dies work for 30x47?

Assuming H4198 is the powder of choice, how many grains can I stuff in it, and what MV can I expect with 115 gr. bullets?
 
Tenring,

#1-seater and sizer. The 30x47 is over .250 longer than 30BR. Neither will work for a 30x47 You need dedicated eguipment for the case.

#2- 4198. definitely NOT the powder for that case. Dangerously fast for that case. N-135 or 748 are the powders most commonly used.
 
Thanks David, that's just what I suspected - altho I was told H4198 was the right powder.
 
tenring,
I shoot a 30X47 and have found that I intially tried 2 powders VV-135 & VV-133 and the VV-133 shot just a bit better than the 135. I use 35gr of 133 and135gr bibs bullets.
 
It's not unbearable, but I do have a thin rubber recoil pad on this hunter gun and I find that it likes to be held onto and not free recoiled.
 
And most Hunter guns like some kind of touch. Not necessarily a full on strangle, but at least some handling. More than a LV 6PPC for sure
 
dick is very informational on the 30x47L. If you have any real concerns tenring, i am more than sure dick could help you out. Good luck and good shooting! Lee
 
dies for 3ox47

I have a set for 30x47 for a 308 short. 26 degree shoulder. I have a set for a 30x47 40 degree shoulder. I can tell you the best way to set up for a 30x47 in 30 degree shoulder is to buy a redding s type for 30x47 to size the shoulder head space preceeded by a run up into a small base 30-06 die. Ther are some other methods using a 30tc die because it has a 30 deg. shoulder. It matters whether you are using 6.5 by 47 lapua brass or win chester 308 brass and how the chamber base is cut. Is it .466 or .470. Lapua ready or winchester ready?
 
phonso said:
I have a set for 30x47 for a 308 short. 26 degree shoulder. I have a set for a 30x47 40 degree shoulder. I can tell you the best way to set up for a 30x47 in 30 degree shoulder is to buy a redding s type for 30x47 to size the shoulder head space preceeded by a run up into a small base 30-06 die. Ther are some other methods using a 30tc die because it has a 30 deg. shoulder. It matters whether you are using 6.5 by 47 lapua brass or win chester 308 brass and how the chamber base is cut. Is it .466 or .470. Lapua ready or winchester ready?
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I would like to add that most HBR shooters do not go any faster than W748/VV135 in 30x47 nor any lighter than 130 gr. bullet. If the want to go to 30x44 they go no faster than H322 or lighter than 115.
 
I shoot a 30x47 built off the 6.5x47 lapua. it's a no brainer to load and have chambered. I have wilson dies, the thing is ,I had to run my reamer into the sizer die whitch is better. use the 6.5x47 lapua brass, expand it out to 3o cal. then turn the necks .0010 as for load that will up to your gun. mine shoots 44.2 gr. h322, 118 bib at 3225fps.but it will shoot 39.7 as well.seating depth is more important , .015 is where my sweet spot is. just won 1st at texas state hunter class for 200yds. rem. action trued up,krieger 1-17 twist, old h&s stock, t6 weaver. gunsmith Randy Fite, he's good. and reasonable mostly depends on where you live. there are a lot of good gun smiths out there, good luck ..Mike Wall
 
Dick Grosbier said:
Myself and a friend named Rod Morton have won an awful lot of Groundhog matches shooting H4198 behind 112 or 118 BIBS in our 30x47's.
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And I have shot some good scores using 2015 in a 30x44. Would I do it on a regular basis, no way in hell. 4198 is a low density load that will bite you in the long run on a SCORE target. You really do want to find a powder that is a 95%-105% density load so it will stay consistent.

IMHO

David
 
I have found the same thing on H4895 Rewinder. It has been by far the most accurate powder in my 30x47 based on the .300 Savage case.
 
Rewinder said:
Seems that H-4895 should be the correct powder instead of 4198 Randy
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Experience with various 30x47/44 chamberings, and bullets weighing less than 150 Gr. dictates that 4895, N-135, and 748 are a tad 'slow' - they just don't develop enough pressure for reliable/repeatable performance. With the lighter weight bullets (up to 135 Gr. or so) I have invariably gotten much better performance (precision) with H-322 (extreme), N-133, or, slightly 'faster' burn rate powders (H-4198): when pressure dictates the upper [charge-weight] limit, somewhere just short of 'stroking out', good things usually 'happen'.;)

Hey, Mike Wall, now ya done it: "mine shoots 44.2 gr. h322, 118 bib at 3225fps." - for the last four seasons, I've been wondering how fast my H-322 extreme loads might be going (been sprayin' with a tad more more than you note) . . . but, have been afraid to chrono, thinking I could get 'psyched -out' if the MV wasn't up to expectations! :p The 'extreme' version, with the lighter bullet weights, is GREAT stuff in these cases, much better than the 'old' versions of H-322, which usually 'maxed out' (pressure) at around 42.0 Gr., and delivered a little under 3100 FPS. The 'old' H-322 was always useful . . . but, now I know why the Extreme version is a cut above useful . . . :cool: But back to the point: if, with the intended bullet weight, a powder selection proves incapable of generating excessive pressure, don't bet on it, 'through thick and thin'. :eek: No, I don't throw away the precious Rem. .308UBR brass after a Grand - to the contrary, pals tell me I live with it too long . . .;) RG
 
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