Custom Hunting Rifle advice wanted

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Hi.. seems to be some very competent folks here from what I have seen.

Looking for some advice.. I am wanting to have a custom HUNTING rifle built for use primarily in alaska... will be used for everything with the exception of brown bears.. so I am thinking 270 WSM or maybe something similar with good long range capability... possibly could be used for sheep and or goats. It needs to be an all weather rifle... stainless steel inside and out if possible.. lightweight as much as is reasonably practical. I want exceptional accuracy, durability, reliability. What components would you recommend go into this rifle... any and all suggestions are welcomed.
 
Imo

I would not pick a 270 WSM for Alaska or any other place.

I would stay with a cartidge such as the 7 Mag. because of the heavier weight bullets.

Or any other cartridge based on 7mm. once again based on bullet selection.

I might even start with a Kimber, SS barrel and action and a nice light stock. If it didn't shoot have it rebarreled. Never owned one.

All my big game rifles are custom Model 70's. When my 280 Imp isn't enough I go to the .338. BTW they wear the same McMillan stock and same Krieger contour. Simple and affective.

You also need one of these: http://www.gunboonie.com/
 
A remington 700 action or a good mauser action would be hard to beat. Good barrels would be any of the premium stainless steel barrels. If your mind is not set in stone about the good .270 Winchester, and it is a good choice, I would take another look at the 30/06 The recoil is about the same and the bullet range is wider. Compare in your loading manuals the loads for 130 grain .270 and 130 grain 30/06 and you will find more velocity. There are more bullets made for the .30 caliber and more accurate ones. I believe that you can find more places that sell the 30/06 in remote places.

Ask ten other shooters and you will get at least eight different answers.

Concho Bill
 
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Bill Wynne said:
Ask ten other shooters and you will get at least eight different answers.
Concho Bill
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More like 20 different answers!

Bill is right--the 30-06 is an excellent choice for Alaska hunts, even for the larger animals. It's good to 400+ yards. If you can't get within 400 yards of the animal, wait for a better opportunity.
 
thanks for all of the replys so far... I am considering having it built from the ground up around a stiller predator action or version of it... using a lilja, shilen, krieger bbl etc... hi tech stock... does anyone like the 270 WSM or 300 WSM
 
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Other than a HiTech stock, I like your choices. I just did a HiTech stock for my Grandson and it was a piece of junk. I will use McMillan from now on for a synthetic hunting stock. I believe their Edge is light weight. 30-06 and 300 WM are very hard to beat. Much better choice of good bullets.
Butch
 
Does anyone like HS Precision stocks? I know mcmillan stocks are good.
 
i have a custom rifle built on a predator action with shilen ss select match barrel and mcmillan rem. sporter stock.the barrel is a #4 contour so its all a little on the heavy side for most.its chambered in 270wsm and i wouldnt trade it for anything.i cant give advice as far as alaska hunting,but with careful handloading using nosler 130gr. ballistic tips and re-19 i can shoot 1/4 inch at 100 yards all day from a solid rest and hit a 3" by 3" steel plate at 400 yrds every time from a bipod. i use this rifle to hunt antalope in wyoming.shots can be very long as far as hunting is concerned but the animals are relatively small.
 
Sounds like the mcmillain stock is the way to go... what is a good reliable yet accurate trigger for this rifle I am building using a predator action... I don't want a trigger that becomes problematic in crappy conditions, would be nice to have the trigger mechanism in stainless steel. I'd like to keep the weight of the rifle minus scope and mounts to 6.5 lbs or so... How about magazine.. something in stainless, center feed and detachable... straddle floor plate also in stainless... Keep in mind the gun might be in rainy wet snowy cold conditions for days on end... i dont want it failing due to rust or other environmental factors...
 
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no its not a bench gun , a hunting rifle put together with the best parts i could afford by a good smith.it helps to be able to shoot also
 
You can put all the exotic pieces together you want to but when you get to where the rubber meets the road, you gonna be better off with an '06 or 300. They've stood the test of time and they've taken everything that walks in Alaska.
 
I would consider a 375 H & H Magnum If Alaska is what you have in mind. I know it is a step up from a 270 but such is the game in Alaska from the game where I live. A three six bits is not a bench rifle but I have shot a few and I can shoot it accurately.

I would like to hear from someone from Alaska or British Columbia.

Concho Bill
 
When I hunted Brown Bear in Alaska I was told by my guide that the smallest caliber legal for Brown Bear was the 30-06. So if you want a light rifle to carry where you can always find ammo for from 110 grain to 220 grain bullets and very accurate I would choose it. Shot placement is the most important part of the kill.

"Aim small miss small", :D

gt40

PS: here is a 10+ footer shot by the guy on the left who hunted with me on the right.
 

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food for thought

my father hunted mule deer with van hale in new mexico and he related a story of how a grizzly came to visit his tent one night. just the thought of that, i would have to agree with bill on the 375 h&h or minimum 300 win mag. van hale had a 300 weatherby and it still left an impression on him.

just like the joke that one can tell what type of bear it is by the scat. black bear has berrys and small animal parts in it. grizzlies have a strong pepper spray odor and pieces of jogging outfits in it.

Fred
 
Too Much Gun!

I have hunted moose, caribou, Dall sheep, brown bears and black bears in Alaska.

For everything other than coastal brown bears, the 375 H&H is overkill.
 
gun nut said:
Hi.. seems to be some very competent folks here from what I have seen.

Looking for some advice.. I am wanting to have a custom HUNTING rifle built for use primarily in alaska... will be used for everything with the exception of brown bears.. so I am thinking 270 WSM or maybe something similar with good long range capability... possibly could be used for sheep and or goats. It needs to be an all weather rifle... stainless steel inside and out if possible.. lightweight as much as is reasonably practical. I want exceptional accuracy, durability, reliability. What components would you recommend go into this rifle... any and all suggestions are welcomed.
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Stainless Model 700™ AWR II (Alaskan Wilderness Rifle) in 30-06 or .300 WM
trued by Gretan or other BR gunsmith if necessary.



http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/custom_shop/700/model_700_AWR_II.asp



AS RUGGED and MAGNIFICENT AS THE PLACE IT’S named FOR. The Model 700™ AWR II – Alaskan Wilderness Rifle II. It’s not only a thing of beauty, it’s as tough as the Alaskan winter nights are long.

• “Blue Printed” Model 700™ stainless steel action to ensure receiver face and bolt face squareness and uniform locking lug contact

• Black TriNyte® coating on barrel action and bolt

• Custom turned and chambered hammer forged fluted Model 700 stainless steel barrel (24" standard calibers, 26" magnum calibers)

• Machined stainless steel trigger guard and floorplate assembly with black TriNyte® coating

• Bell & Carlson composite stock – olive green with black webbing

• Full length aluminum bedding block

• Recessed crown

• Model 40-X adjustable trigger tuned and set by Custom Shop at 3 lbs.

• All rifles .30 caliber and under must meet a sub-MOA

• Packaged in hard case
 
Custom Hunting Rifle.

I build custom hunting rifles all the time. The Stiller Predator action, Jewell Trigger, PT&G bottom metal, and Wyatt mag box, McMillinan Stock, Calibers of 270, 7mm, 30 caliber are the premium for non dangerous game. PT&G can have your reamer and gauges made in 2-3 weeks. Your gunsmith can build your rifle with in a week or two after getting all the components. Stiller actions are taking from 2-12 weeks, Broughton, Bartlein, Kreiger, Lilja, Hart, Rock Creek, Brux barrels are taking from 4-16 weeks, Right now McMillian stocks are taking 10-17 weeks.

The rifles that I am finishing now were ordered last September and October, 8 or 9 months ago.

Unless your smith has the components on hand you can wait a minimum of 6 months and maybe a year and half. Most good smiths will have work ahead of you and do it first come first serve.

There are many quality smiths out there. Some are very busy and some are not. That says a lot.

Nat Lambeth
 
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