Benchrest stocks 1000yd vs 100 & 200yd

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agmubx

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I am having built a rifle built. I found a stock that like. But it is designated a 1000yd stock. I am interested in the shorter distances. I have researched the point and references to the Varmint Rifle diagram. This diagram can be found on page 113 of the nbrsa rules rev. 37. I see how to make the change to the stock but nowhere can I find any reason for difference or why it is necessary, Thanks agmubx
 
Different group of shooters and organized at different times. The 1K rules allow experimentation thus pretty much anything goes. Short range has very strict rules regarding stock configuration. Just the way it is.

Dave
 
My question is how was the choice made or was it just a arbitrary decision. My thought is since they refer to the Varmint Rifle Diagram it has something with how a varmint rifle looks. agmubx
 
All rules are arbitrary, eventually, even if they did have a logic base originally. I've found it's easier to look at the rules, then decide whether you're willing to accommodate yourself to them or not.

As an example, I have an F class background & 1000 yard bench is compatible weight & form wise, so I compete occasionally. Short range benchrest isn't, so I don't.
 
My new rifle will be a 6BR. with a Bartlein heavy varmint 13.5 tw. The stock I have order is a revolution 3 I will have to modify the base of the butt stock to meet the rules for the 1-200yd based on the varmint rifle diagram. I will not take much to change it to fit the rules. I have not found any rule that would prevent it under the rules for longer distances ie. 1000yds. agmubx
 
As Dave Tooley said, in 1000 yard BR, there are basically no stock dimensions. If it is a light gun, it must weigh no more than 17 lbs (NBRSA). That will put some limits on your stock in that it can't unlimited in size.

100 / 200 yard benchrest does have strict rules about stock width, angle of the butt, etc. If you are using a 13.5 twist barrel then by design, you are limiting yourself to shooting light bullets; up to around 68 grains or so. So by design you are building toward a 100 / 200 yard rifle. I would go back and re-think the stock and go with one of the good short range benchrest stocks. That way, you will not have to modify the shape of the stock. Modifying the stock you have chosen may be more involved than just changing the toe angle. Most 1000 yard stocks are built with a weight limit of 17 pounds in mind so you may have to remove weight from it to get down to the short range weight. Further, I would think long and hard about the finished weight of the rifle. If you build a 10.5 pound 6mm rifle, you can shoot it in the sporter class, the light varmint class, and even the heavy varmint class. If your finished rifle weighs over 10.5 lbs but not more than 13.5 pounds, you can only shoot it in the heavy varmint class. If it weighs over 13.5 lbs, you can only shoot in the unlimited class.

Joe
ps. You can search and find LOTS of info on building a good short range rifle. Most of the posts will explain it much better than I have.
 
agmubx said:
I have not found any rule that would prevent it under the rules for longer distances ie. 1000yds. agmubx
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There are no rules that will prohibit it's use.

with a Bartlein heavy varmint 13.5 tw.
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What's "tw" mean here? "total weight"? Twist?

If weight, it might be competitive at 600 yards, though as always, a rifle built to a specific purpose is usually going to do better at that purpose. You'll be giving up a bit to the 17-pound rifles in weight, probably not too important.

If you mean 13.5 barrel twist, you'll be giving up a lot . 600 yard matches have been won with short-range .30BRs and 6PPCs. Not often, but it happens. Can't remember if a short-range match was ever won with the 8 to 10-twist barrels required for 6mm bullets usually found at 600 yards. Well, Randy Robinett did come in second in a 200-yard HV group match once with his 6mm Dasher, firing his own 121-grain FB bullets in a 10-twist barrel. But he's Randy Robinett, & your not.

I'd say a 13.5 twist 6BR is hopeless for 1,000 yards.
 
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In the hopes of not offending anyone who might read this thread. I am new and not a purist when it comes BR. Therefore, I have found ant of the traditional BR stocks that I liked. We manufacture Plantation Shutters. I have employees who are exceptional craftsman. The Stock I have ordered will be unfinished. When it arrives we will the refine to meet the rules and my likes. I really appreciate all commits and hope to get more. I am getting a real education having this rifle built. We spent part of the summer at Angel Fire, NM. While there we went to NRA Whittington Range. They were having 1000yd match. I do see shooting at this range. All the elements envolved are amplified at this range. agmubx SA TX
 
I will add my thoughts for you to ponder also. Since you don't seem to really know which discipline you want to shoot, why not go sort of "in between?". Get a stock configured for short range benchrest like a McMillan Edge or something similar. Go with a 1 - 10" twist 6mm barrel. Build it to 13.5 (or slightly under)lbs. With this set up, you could shot Heavy Varmint (group) or Varmint for Score using 68 and 70 gr. bullets. Then, if you decide to shoot 600 yards, you could switchy to the a bullet like the Berger 88gr. LD or possibly even the Berger 95 gr. VLD which it might/should stabalize. This gives you the option of playing both games and being somewhat competitive. Just a thought?:eek:
Rich De
 
I havent read this post all the way through so maybe this is off subject. If you dont know what you really want to shoot and your looking for a good all around stock, go with a TMBR made by Kelblys. They are not the sexiest stock out there but i sure do like they way they feel and shoot! Lee
 
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