A few pictures from Visalia
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Jim Erickson
Member
Boyd Thanks for the photos...
what camera are you using? Also, please email me at "jederick@aol.com" as I have a question concerning one of your photos.
Thanks,
Jim
what camera are you using? Also, please email me at "jederick@aol.com" as I have a question concerning one of your photos.
Thanks,
Jim
jackie schmidt
New member
Hmmmmmmm
Gary looks pretty normal for a man who OBVIOUSLY has made a deal with the devil.
.......jackie
Gary looks pretty normal for a man who OBVIOUSLY has made a deal with the devil.
.......jackie
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TomD
e publius unum
He used a Canon Powershot A95, probably around 5 years old, proving that good shots come from the photographer. Well the camera isn't a dog but it's far from current state of the art.
OK, how are we supposed to integrate the scattered visible sighters to a .124?
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WE aren't supposed to, HE is.... and DID!!
That is some flat scary shootin' right thar.......
Unless he scattered those sighters for effect.
LOL
al
jackie schmidt
New member
Al
Probably wasn't real sure of his load, so he dumped them on the sighter. Afterall, I can see at least .010 verticle in that .034 group..........jackie
Probably wasn't real sure of his load, so he dumped them on the sighter. Afterall, I can see at least .010 verticle in that .034 group.
.........jackieBoyd Allen
Active member
As it happens, my wife won the camera in a drawing at work. It was a long way from state of the art when it was new, but it does what I need done, well enough. I just love the advantages of digital photography.
My experience with conventional still photography goes back to the late 50's when my aunt and uncle came to live in the same town, because he had been hired to run the photography department at the college where my dad taught. I was in the fifth and sixth grades at the time and learned the basics from him with 4x5 cut film in a Speed Graphic. Within a short time, I was loading my own film holders in the dark, and processing the negatives and making prints on my own. Quite an adventure for a boy of that age. I was lucky.
My experience with conventional still photography goes back to the late 50's when my aunt and uncle came to live in the same town, because he had been hired to run the photography department at the college where my dad taught. I was in the fifth and sixth grades at the time and learned the basics from him with 4x5 cut film in a Speed Graphic. Within a short time, I was loading my own film holders in the dark, and processing the negatives and making prints on my own. Quite an adventure for a boy of that age. I was lucky.
Probably wasn't real sure of his load, so he dumped them on the sighter. Afterall, I can see at least .010 verticle in that .034 group.
yeahh right
LOL
al
Actually, I've fairly well studied that sighter..... two of those sonsab'gunses are stacked so tall that I'm perty sure there was 5-8mph switches in the cross going on there....
what do you think?
C
Cheechako
Guest
You don't know what his aiming point was. He may have been using a previous bullet hole as the aiming point.
Ray
Ray
Gary Ocock
Member
Sighters
Since I've received several email's and phone calls about the sighters on my UNL targets, I'll explain.
When I shoot my rail in mild, readable conditions, I bacically shoot anywhere on the sighter and attempt to have the POI close to my dot, that way I can judge how far and in what direction the condition moves the bullet from where I anticipate it should be.
Example on the .124 target.
Sighters
First shot was the low left - condition was a slight R to L.
First shot on the record went slightly right - so I went back to the sighter
Second shot (the lower right one) (sighters) went a bit more right (from my crosshair dot and slightly lower)
I waited a little bit (a min or so) and it looked as though the condition came back so I moved to another spot and fired the third sighter shot. It went where it should, so I went back to the record and shot the next four; while paying attention to the slight left and right changes to the flags.
Several of the groups at 100 yards I fudged a 1/3rd (maybe a 1/2) of a bullet (L or R) as I had 5 flags out and some (1 or 2 flags) would drop slightly and when that happened I fudged.
This weekend it worked.
I use this strategy for the UNL (Rail) class only.
Gary Ocock
Since I've received several email's and phone calls about the sighters on my UNL targets, I'll explain.
When I shoot my rail in mild, readable conditions, I bacically shoot anywhere on the sighter and attempt to have the POI close to my dot, that way I can judge how far and in what direction the condition moves the bullet from where I anticipate it should be.
Example on the .124 target.
Sighters
First shot was the low left - condition was a slight R to L.
First shot on the record went slightly right - so I went back to the sighter
Second shot (the lower right one) (sighters) went a bit more right (from my crosshair dot and slightly lower)
I waited a little bit (a min or so) and it looked as though the condition came back so I moved to another spot and fired the third sighter shot. It went where it should, so I went back to the record and shot the next four; while paying attention to the slight left and right changes to the flags.
Several of the groups at 100 yards I fudged a 1/3rd (maybe a 1/2) of a bullet (L or R) as I had 5 flags out and some (1 or 2 flags) would drop slightly and when that happened I fudged.
This weekend it worked.
I use this strategy for the UNL (Rail) class only.
Gary Ocock
Boyd Allen
Active member
If one is testing the extremes, and seeing which condition has the greatest potential, one can end up with just that sort of sighter. Donchathink?
J
Jeff Welker
Guest
Gary continues to recieve countless phone calls and emails regarding the "dot" he uses when shooting world records with his rail.
I am happy to announce that Gary's company (GO Precision) is now offering custom "dots" for use in railgun competitions. These "dots" are individually milled from a 22 pound block of solid stainless titanium - uranium grade. Each "dot" is then chemically etched to ensure military tolerances are maintained. All you have to do is arrange for the target crew to place your "dots" on the sighter portion of your target prior to each relay. It is Gary's hope that proper use of the GO Precision "dots" will help others achieve a world record POI.
Normally Joe Stanovich would make these types of news releases; however, he is currently working at GO Precision's world headquarters on another BR technology breakthrough and unavailable.
Gary has also completed the first draft on a companion book titled "How I Place My Dots - The Strategy and Science of POI". Gary hopes to have this book published approximately 2 weeks before Boyer's book.
Dude.... that's gonna' SUCK!!
Now I won't have enough money for Tony's book for at least several months.
bummer
al
Important concept
What Gary is sayin' is that it doesn't matter where you aim shooting a sighter with a rail gun. Shoot it, take a mental picture of where the sighter hole is in your scope, crank that spot to your group and pull the trigger. Doesn't make any difference where it hits on the sighter target. Where it hits in the scope is all that matters. It's the same hold either way but much easier (faster) to use the "relative" method.
What Gary is sayin' is that it doesn't matter where you aim shooting a sighter with a rail gun. Shoot it, take a mental picture of where the sighter hole is in your scope, crank that spot to your group and pull the trigger. Doesn't make any difference where it hits on the sighter target. Where it hits in the scope is all that matters. It's the same hold either way but much easier (faster) to use the "relative" method.
Dick Grosbier
Club Coordinator
Boyd,
Very nice photo's.
Are the 4 hose clamps on the end of the barrel in the first photo a barrel tuner? It looks like they are holding a piece of metal (lead perhaps) to the bottom side of the barrel?
Dick
Very nice photo's.
Are the 4 hose clamps on the end of the barrel in the first photo a barrel tuner? It looks like they are holding a piece of metal (lead perhaps) to the bottom side of the barrel?
Dick
Boyd Allen
Active member
I believe that what my look like a thin strip of metal is actually in the background. (I looked at a slightly out of focus close shot.) I think that the clamps are the only added weight, but to be honest I didn't discuss it with him at any length. With a barrel that stout, I wouldn't expect much from that little weight, but I have been surprised before.