338 supressors???

[crappie]

Any of you guys have much experience with 338 supressors for accuracy? Im wondering what your recommend?
I wondering which might have the largest thread diameter as i heard at times threading can open up the bore diam at the muzzle.
Also if any sit back over the barrel for a shorter combined OAL.

 

[r44astro]

I have installed a Vias muzzle brake on 300 WBY mag. The accuracy maybe a little better, probaly because you do not fear the recoil. It will shoot an inch or better at 200 for two rounds the third is usually a little off.
The barrel is too hot to touch after two shots. I have a Vias for my 338 Win mag . I have only shot this thing three times because it hurts! After I install I should be to shoot from the bench and not dread the recoil. Not sure what suppressors are. Silencer?
Bill

 

[CMaier]

go talk to TBAC thunder beast arms co.
i know guys shooting out to 2000 yds with suppressed
338 ultra and 338 lm.
the thunder beasts have built in muzzle break
bbl adapter, so quiet and less recoil.

 

[Mike Bryant]

I have my .338 Lapua set up with a Badger Ordnance FTE brake with 5/8-24 thread. Take it off and I can shoot it with an AAC Titan suppressor. Recoil is a little heavier with the suppressor than the brake. It's still pretty loud, nothing like Hollywood makes them out. Pretty easy to suppress blanks, not so easy to suppress supersonic rounds. Accuracy wise I can't tell any difference between the rifle with the suppressor or with the brake. I went with the threaded on brake rather than a quick detachable as it makes it less expensive switching the suppressor to other rifles. Quick detachable adapters aren't cheap and add up if you have to buy several of them. Also have a Surefire .30 caliber suppressor that fits on an adapter and goes back over the barrel a few inches. The problem with it is that they have discontinued that model suppressor and discontinued the adapter to fit it.

 

[parshal]

I have a Lane suppressor that will work with a .338 although I've not shot it on a .338. It's 5-8/24 thread. I used it on my 6.5. Accuracy is great. I'd suspect none would negatively impact accuracy. At least that's been the case on the three rifles I regularly shoot with different suppressors.

 

[CMaier]

i do not like the idea of 5/8's on a big 30 cal, leaves too little metal, takes too much away.
too easy to "open" up the muzzle.
i went with 3/4-24.

 

[alinwa]

Some random thoughts on suppression


The ear-damaging sound signature of a firearm comes mostly from two sources....

#1, the "muzzle blast" of excess gas pressure exiting the bore (think muffler VS no muffler on a hotrod)
#2, the supersonic crack of the projectile (and gases) "breaking the sound barrier"....sonic boom.

BOTH effects create potentially damaging levels of noise. Suppression of supersonic projectiles does very little to mitigate damaging noise EXCEPT that with a long barrel it can move the origination point out far enough that you _can_ hunt without hearing protection. I would never target shoot without hearing protection, in fact I've shot some AR's that actually seem to hurt my ears MORE with the suppressor than naked.

-There are two ways to make usable energy in projectile weapons.....

#1, the most common, is through velocity. Doubling the velocity squares the energy. cheap and easy energy gain (not always useful, but still real energy) downside
#2, (the best for suppressed rifles IMO) is via weight of projectile. Double the weight, double the energy.


THEREFORE.....IMO the only USEFUL place for a suppressor is on a subsonic round.

I do play with subsonic 338's (as well as 22's, 30's, 50's etc) and, again In My Opinion, they become marginally useful with the 300gr projectiles. A LARGE 338 bullet will make around 700fp of energy at 100yds......this is less than 1/2 the energy of a 30-30 Winchester Model 94.

just something to think about....

al

 

[CMaier]

but the crack is in front of you.....not at your ear.
in the pits you only hear the crack..nothing else.


i see just the opposite of al.
two weeks ago i shot next to two 338's, and it was like they were not even there.
they were shooting loads for a 2000 yard match..not sub sonic at all.
sub sonic works for relatively short range, where one can lob them in.

Some random thoughts on suppression


The ear-damaging sound signature of a firearm comes mostly from two sources....

#1, the "muzzle blast" of excess gas pressure exiting the bore (think muffler VS no muffler on a hotrod)
#2, the supersonic crack of the projectile (and gases) "breaking the sound barrier"....sonic boom.

BOTH effects create potentially damaging levels of noise. Suppression of supersonic projectiles does very little to mitigate damaging noise EXCEPT that with a long barrel it can move the origination point out far enough that you _can_ hunt without hearing protection. I would never target shoot without hearing protection, in fact I've shot some AR's that actually seem to hurt my ears MORE with the suppressor than naked.

-There are two ways to make usable energy in projectile weapons.....

#1, the most common, is through velocity. Doubling the velocity squares the energy. cheap and easy energy gain (not always useful, but still real energy) downside
#2, (the best for suppressed rifles IMO) is via weight of projectile. Double the weight, double the energy.


THEREFORE.....IMO the only USEFUL place for a suppressor is on a subsonic round.

I do play with subsonic 338's (as well as 22's, 30's, 50's etc) and, again In My Opinion, they become marginally useful with the 300gr projectiles. A LARGE 338 bullet will make around 700fp of energy at 100yds......this is less than 1/2 the energy of a 30-30 Winchester Model 94.

just something to think about....

al