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:D Now that's funny stuff right there. So true too! I realize I made a tangent comment, but it does tie in with the problem here---sometimes we can't see lines and/or bullet holes. If we can't see lines, it's because they are not thick enough or enough contrast, if we can't see bullet holes...

I think the guy who came up with the idea of black ink for targets should have that target stapled to his forehead and be hung by his shoelaces from the moving backer line.:) As a range officer, if I had a dollar for every time I've had to help some poor guy find his bullet holes in a black...

Well, I've got a dozen burned out 6ppc barrels lying around. Guess I could ream one of them out with the 30br reamer and shoot 6br's down them. Never thought of that. Thanks Jackie. By the way, how often are you changing your load during the day Jackie? Or are you pre-loading? Is it really...

Thank you Mr. Stinnet and Jackie once again. Sounds like fireforming is the best way to make the brass. Anybody have a 30 cal junker barrel laying around threaded for a Panda/viper they want to sell cheap?! Probably not since nobody has worn a barrel out yet with this caliber!:D;) Well, might...

We had a good one at our match weekend before last. Some of us are there on Thursday practicing and getting set up for the match and we get a few people wander in and ask what's going on. Well, this big jacked up diesel pickup truck comes in. You know the type, hillbilly cadillac rig with...

Ok, I quickly made up a few 30 br's this morning and made a few observations which leads me to yet more questions! When taking the 6br up to 30, a big portion of the shoulder gets pulled up into the neck creating a monster donut, maybe more than twice the size of the donut found in 6ppc's made...

Thanks for pointing that out Jackie. I got your drift. Aggregate is the magic word in this adventure. And I really prefer the longer neck, fatter powder column, and more abundant gear available for the 30BR. Plus the brass is cheaper!;) By the way, I am guessing that aggregate you refer to...

Thank you Mr. Stinnett again. Now it's a quest, I've gotta find some Bergers!

Yep, clear enough. Thanks. So as to powder capacity, the 30 Major would probably hold a bit more powder than the 30br?

Thanks Butch. I just did a little searching for the 30 major and found where I got confused. I was under the impression that the 30 ppc was a 30 Grendel since the 6.5 grendel was based on the 6.5ppc. But apparently, that was only in the beginning. After more development, the 220 russian case...

Thank you Speedy. I will fire off an email as I know you're a busy guy! By the way, is the addy speey or speedy?

Thank you very much for your answers. I have a couple more questions if you don't mind? Why isn't the 115 Berger used more often with these cartridges? I never see it listed in any equipment lists. I could probably get my hands on those easier than some of the other brands. And what is a 30...

Mr. Stinnett, I would like your opinion on something since you seem to have been around the block a time or two with these thirties. I have been contemplating building a 30br for group competition for quite some time. Due to the current barrel situation (in my opinion formed from recent...

Yeah, me too! $4.00+ gallon is really starting to get nasty. I don't know about you, but I'm not really loving all this "hope and change". Seems the only thing that's changed is the price of gas!

This is way off topic and don't mean to hijack the thread, but I'd like to know how much you charge to upgrade and fit a Panda action Speedy? And could I drop it off to you on my way down to Raton? Thanks.

Thanks Marty! You going to the "haze" next month?

I've heard conflicting stories of what went on up there so I'm not sure. You should give Dave Tunbridge or Dean Parker a call and see what can be done. I know everyone would really like to have that match back! It was sure nice to have four matches a year within a two hour drive.... Good...

I'll bet Jeff Thompson was up all night contemplating what could have been if only his 4th target was anywhere near the same size as his others! Holy smokes!

I wish I had a grundle of barrels laying around! In truth, I've only got one right now with less than 1200 rounds through it! After this past weekend, it's got another 200 down 'er! It'll be time for a new one before I know it and it will be another roll of the dice.

Thanks Gary. It was sure good to see you back. We were really glad you decided to come down and shoot with us again. Hopefully we'll cross paths someplace before next year.:)