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AMMASHOOTA
06-19-2015, 06:55 PM
When Obama was elected for his first term I must have had a vision, because I started stocking up on everything: brass, primers, powder, bullets, .22 LR. I stockpiled virtually everything (since I shoot a half dozen different calibers, it was a sizable investment), including Remington 700 extractor rivets.

I just tried ordering a couple and both Brownells and Midway not only have none in stock, but won't let you back order the item.

I looked through all of my spare part bins and found 2 small and 1 long rivet. I need the long one today. I can't figure out why they are in such short supply. They used to ship a rivet with an extractor, but now they have to be ordered separately.

Anybody have a clue why such a simple part is no longer readily available?

RStiefel
06-19-2015, 08:43 PM
You have answered your own question in your posting. And you aren't alone.

"I stockpiled virtually everything including Remington 700 extractor rivets".

AMMASHOOTA
06-19-2015, 11:38 PM
You have answered your own question in your posting. And you aren't alone.

"I stockpiled virtually everything including Remington 700 extractor rivets".

3 rivets is hardly a stockpile and the reason they are out of stock...

vicvanb
06-25-2015, 08:16 PM
When Obama was elected for his first term I must have had a vision...

Was your vision that the hoarders would cause everything to be scarce or unavailable?

Dusty Stevens
06-25-2015, 09:29 PM
I think rivetless extractors are the norm. And did your vision include the normally used parts like triggers and springs or just the stuff even gunsmiths dont need but every 10yrs? Ive been building rifles for almost 20yrs now and ive needed one extractor due to a case head failure and one that i broke truing the face. Put sakos in both and sent em down the road

AMMASHOOTA
06-26-2015, 11:18 AM
Was your vision that the hoarders would cause everything to be scarce or unavailable?

'Everything' is a word I rarely use. Don't know how to address your question.

AMMASHOOTA
06-26-2015, 11:25 AM
I think rivetless extractors are the norm. And did your vision include the normally used parts like triggers and springs or just the stuff even gunsmiths dont need but every 10yrs? Ive been building rifles for almost 20yrs now and ive needed one extractor due to a case head failure and one that i broke truing the face. Put sakos in both and sent em down the road

This is just a guess, but see if it makes sense. While I am not familiar with the tooling process for creating the rivets for the extractor, it probably involves some kind of a 'one-off' setup for manufacturing them.

The cost of setup for the process is generally justified by the number produced vs. the rate of sale (and profit) vs. the cost of storage for the inventory.

My guess here is that when Remington originally decided to use a riveted extractor in its actions it manufactured 'X' number of rivets for gunsmith maintenance purposes way back when. We probably have exhausted that inventory and perhaps Remington is hesitant to re-tool for another manufacturing run given the increase in costs. etc.

If we have indeed reached end of life for riveted extractors, then the sako/m16 option you mention may be the only reasonable path to take.

Dusty Stevens
06-26-2015, 08:34 PM
Such a simple piece wouldnt take but a few minutes to make. Do you have the installation tool for the rivets?

AMMASHOOTA
06-26-2015, 09:49 PM
Such a simple piece wouldnt take but a few minutes to make. Do you have the installation tool for the rivets?

Yes, I have the tool.

Dusty Stevens
06-27-2015, 05:24 PM
Theyre made from a pretty soft steel. I bet you could make one easier than buying one