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xs hedspace
12-19-2013, 11:42 AM
A post on another forum had a copy of a NYPD letter to a gun owner requiring him to turn in, modify, or prove his rifles are out of NYC. Why? They hold more than 5 ROUNDS!! They were all .22 rf, 2 bolt actions, and one was a biathlon trainer. Holy crap, I didn't think the gang bangers were using these for drive-bys! So this guy registered his guns, so he was law abiding, and the idiots in the city council are harassing him. Moral of this story could be DON"T REGISTER? This is outrageus and insane! :mad:

Larry Elliott
12-22-2013, 09:54 PM
I'd say that the moral of the story is to leave the Peoples Republic of New York and any other place that institutes such asinine laws and regulations. I've got to admit that those biathlon rifles are very popular with the bad guys though. :rolleyes:

Roger T
12-23-2013, 01:12 AM
Did NY change from the 7 round cap to 5 ?

GerryM
12-23-2013, 07:24 PM
They must love it, They keep on reelecting them back into office .

karls42
12-23-2013, 09:26 PM
It's easy to say "move away" a lot harder to actually do!

and when obo gets done with his executive orders - good luck getting your guns into Mexico or Canada!

rwnoel
12-24-2013, 04:23 PM
It's easy to say "move away" a lot harder to actually do!

and when obo gets done with his executive orders - good luck getting your guns into Mexico or Canada!

Getting guns into Mexico or Canada is easy, just join the BATFE.

GerryM
12-24-2013, 07:12 PM
Rodger they are talking New York City.
Home of the commies Like Blumeberg and Cuomo

glp
12-25-2013, 11:21 AM
It's easy to say "move away" a lot harder to actually do!

and when obo gets done with his executive orders - good luck getting your guns into Mexico or Canada!

But millions of immigrants in the late 1800's and early 1900's did it to escape the oppressiveness of Europe and other regions, so it's certainly not beyond the realm. Greg

spfld
01-04-2014, 02:54 PM
Rodger they are talking New York City.
Home of the commies Like Blumeberg and Cuomo

Well, what about that newly coined MAYOR? What I hear and read he's UBER commie!

GerryM
01-04-2014, 06:40 PM
Your probably right about that new Mayor' People like that get voted in constantly.
What's good for New York city is supposed to be good for the rest of the State.
There's totally different Mind set down there.
New York city should be a separate District Like DC. They have little in common with people from the rest of the State.
They out vote us every election.

Wilbur
01-04-2014, 10:35 PM
Not everybody is involved in the "election".

vinny
01-05-2014, 10:39 AM
De blasio is a radical progressive who won by better then 50 percent. "Social and financial inequality" was his platform which, if you listen carefully is the narrative the Dems are stoking for 2014. It'll be a collaborative effort delivered by the mainstream media to divide and conquer the country in order to keep the senate and gain in the house. De blasios policies will reverse the financial and social gains his constituents experienced in the last 15 years.
Elections have consequences, just look at Detroit, 50 years of progressivism no wait, just look at how far our country has fallen since 2009 both domestically and abroad.
Sad state of affairs we're in:(

GerryM
01-05-2014, 11:37 AM
Its true that not everyone who is registered to vote goes and votes on election day.
But bet there is a big turnout in New York City. The turn out drives are really aggressive.
Combine that with voter apathy in other parts of the state and you have a disaster.
A lot of us get the feeling that neither party truly represents us.

vinny
01-05-2014, 12:19 PM
Its true that not everyone who is registered to vote goes and votes on election day.
But bet there is a big turnout in New York City. The turn out drives are really aggressive.
Combine that with voter apathy in other parts of the state and you have a disaster.
A lot of us get the feeling that neither party truly represents us.

Democrats have mastered the "get-out to vote" ground work especially in their heavily constituent concentrated areas. "community organizing" is a disguised method of creating mob mentality where by people follow just for the sake of following which is how Obama got elected the second time and probably the first.

Greyfox
01-05-2014, 12:57 PM
Seems to me there are some clear cut choices available for NY gun owners that care.

1. Get involved in enough politics and getting the vote out to get what you want.
2. Pack up and move to another state that fits with you POV.
3. Complain about how bad things are in NY.

If there are other choices, feel free to point them out.

Rick

vinny
01-05-2014, 01:19 PM
[QUOTE=Greyfox;723600]Seems to me there are some clear cut choices available for NY gun owners that care.

1. Get involved in enough politics and getting the vote out to get what you want.
2. Pack up and move to another state that fits with you POV.
3. Complain about how bad things are in NY.

If there are other choices, feel free to point them out.

Rick[/

Your response is a bit too simple,!! Republicans are outnumbered by a large margin in NY plus most local media lean left which makes it easy for Dems. You wouldn't believe how hard the media is on their opposition come campaign season!! I wish it was as easy as you make it seem but the reality is, it's not.
I think I'll choose to complain, it's cheaper and easier ;)))

Greyfox
01-05-2014, 04:07 PM
If I seemed to imply that the first two were easy, I was misunderstood. Nothing worthwhile is simple or easy. Actually, I'm somewhat sympathetic, but it doesn't change the facts. Whining about how bad things are won't help anything....that leaves #1 or#2.

Rick

Wilbur
01-06-2014, 03:04 AM
If I seemed to imply that the first two were easy, I was misunderstood. Nothing worthwhile is simple or easy. Actually, I'm somewhat sympathetic, but it doesn't change the facts. Whining about how bad things are won't help anything....that leaves #1 or#2.
Rick

So what are we going to do. Let New York go like it's been going or go there and try to make a difference. I've never been out of "smallville"....but could go.

Greyfox
01-06-2014, 08:21 AM
So what are we going to do. Let New York go like it's been going or go there and try to make a difference. I've never been out of "smallville"....but could go.

Actually Wilbur, if I thought there was something I could personally do in NY, I'd have to consider going. Seems to me that as long as there are more voters who want what they are getting it kind of limits the possibilities. You & I know a bit more about things in TN. I wouldn't live in NY if you paid me, too damn cold among other reasons. For me the most productive thing I can think of to do is support (monetarily) the NRA (although they can be a PIA) as they seem to be the only serious push in a positive direction.

Rick

Joe Salt
01-06-2014, 08:29 AM
Wilbur the only way to end this will be with the Supreme Court, are votes won't do any good were outnumbered. New York city has to many radicals,and bleeding harts. I've been to every rally in Albany, our words fall on deaf ears. And the way Obamas loading the Supreme Court to his side, God knows how it will end. I'm staying with my prediction, MARSHALL LAW!

Joe Salt

Fred J
01-06-2014, 10:45 AM
It's a shame, that NY isn't built on an earthquake prone area like Kaliforication. Then there would be hope that they would break off and float away.

Wilbur
01-06-2014, 12:48 PM
I think that it's just a small degree of mis-communication. I've tried it on some younger folks around here and it seems to work. It's a matter of how they think and it so happens that they haven't had the opportunity to think another way.

I could be wrong.

GerryM
01-06-2014, 05:17 PM
Your close to the problem Wilber
I call it the dumbing down of the Public.
The Educational system has taken a real hit not only in New York City or state but the whole country.
NY use to be Ist in Education now that's lost.
The collages both State and private are very liberal with a warped philosophy .
civics are not being taught the proper way in our schools along with American History
It gotten so most of the young people today don't know the bill of rights .

Mike Bryant
01-06-2014, 06:32 PM
The Safe Act is unconstitutional as it infringes on the right to keep and bear arms as well as unconstitutional on the fourth amendment as well, the right to be secure in your property and effects. When they pass a law that bans items that you have legally purchased and possessed, then they are violating the fourth amendment that allows we the people to be secure in our property and effects. That means they can't take away what you own. However, the way that the courts are going and their stupidity in interpreting the bill of right, who knows what they will do.

Joe Salt
01-06-2014, 07:16 PM
Mike I think it's all over in the state of New York but the kicking and Crying! There is another Rally in Albany the 8th, two days from now. Its going to one that Cuomo is giving his State address. Hope they can do some good, I won't be able to go because of prior commitment. Would have loved to be there. Maybe we can secede From New York City or those County's.

Joe Salt

VaniB
01-11-2014, 02:11 PM
Writing your NY politician to tell him that you want him to reverse the gun laws of your city or state is futile. MOVE! Writing your congressman, waiting for the next election, and maintaining a positive attitude does nothing for you when your plane is on fire and has been in a downward spiral.

I'm 60 now. Good things, like the wave of concealable handgun licensing that has swept over much of the nation, as well as a much wider acceptance of ugly black rifles by the general public has been a very slow progression that has taken 2/3 of my life to witness. But, if you live in Democrat states like NY, Cali, Conn, etc., very little will change for the better, and over time much will only change for the worse.

Joe Salt
01-12-2014, 09:47 AM
Just think Cuomo, might run for President in 2016. Kind of reminds me of how Obama got in!

Joe Salt

GerryM
01-13-2014, 09:52 AM
The bases are loader here in ONONDAGA county. WE vote Republican and get some wins but that safe act had would be Republicans vote for it.
It whining and crying it BETRAYEL by our elected officials. In there Quest to be Reelected they vote for what's popular rather then what's right.
It's the same across the country. Those nice cushy jobs that overpay , with benefits fir for a Prince are way to Tempting .
Politicians are supposed to Follow the constitution rather then work against it. The Clintons and many others look to England and want to for a government similar to that, Problem is that's the very same system that the founders hated.
Look to mother England gun control, people control, National heath insurance {waiting lines}, Unemployment for years etc.

ShevyII
01-13-2014, 11:20 AM
HARRISBURG — When it comes to job creation, one state’s loss is another state’s gain.

Kahr Firearms Group, a gun manufacturer, is moving its corporate headquarters from downstate New York to a 620-acre plot in Pike County, in the northeast corner of Pennsylvania.

The move comes after New York earlier this year passed the SAFE Act, banning sales of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Kahr Spokeswoman Sheryl Gallup said the company was mulling an expansion in New York before the legislation, but then found Pennsylvania’s gun laws “less restrictive.”

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/business/Gun_company_finds_bullseye_in_PA_after_NY_restrict s_sales.html#QaHBIHgKYZVeXexR.99

Joe Salt
01-13-2014, 02:52 PM
shevyII: Beikirch's Ammunition corporation, has done the same thing. They bought a place in PA. also because of the unsafe act.

Joe Salt

GerryM
01-13-2014, 10:46 PM
I'm surprised to see Remington still here, They were offered a sweetheart deal in another state.
I can see that they feel un appreciated, after all of that corporate tax they have paid.
The gov thinks the Tri state area is NEW York State.
as mayor Kotch once said we are the hicks from the stix.