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David Halblom
09-23-2013, 07:08 PM
How many of you can name the first 4 presidents in order? Without cheating and using any of the search engines? I, for one, had the names correct, but out of order.

David

dmoran65
09-23-2013, 07:49 PM
Thanks a lot..... you just reminded me how stupid I really am !.!.!

Now I have to go cheat..... Arrrr

Donovan

James M.
09-23-2013, 07:49 PM
I can. James

dmoran65
09-23-2013, 08:19 PM
The question should be.. what President's should NOT have been President?

Don't even half to go back in time, to get the first one right....

Donovan

vargetman
09-23-2013, 11:05 PM
Dave,

Should the question be can you name the first 4 elected Presidents in order??

Charles E
09-24-2013, 08:24 AM
Well, since there has only been one independent elected (Washington), and ever after, the political parties selected the candidates (usually two) to present to the voters, perhaps more interesting would be "name the successful party of the first four presidents, after Washington." Even that's sort of moot, because early on, the president was selected more by the congress, with the voters kind of ratifying that choice. ("Voter's" here meaning "men who owned property.")

To answer David's question, I could name them, but I had to look up the parties that presented the binary choice to the voters. And I'm ashamed to admit I still don't really know what those parties policies were, beyond the state versus federal issue. Bet there were many more issues. Of course, recently, we've turned the elections into a political version of Baywatch. Or to be more charitable, the Emmy Awards. Both highly successful shows, weren't they?

Edit:

So, David's question prompted me to at least look at the early parties. Really interesting, thanks David!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic-Republican_Party

kansasvet
09-24-2013, 11:37 AM
There I was, all smug in my own intelligence, and you ruined it. I knew 3.

David Halblom
09-24-2013, 07:04 PM
You are welcome. I seldom ask a question or start a thread. But after all the threads on "General" that have been "political" I thought it would be good to get back to the base. Funny observation, no one has named them here. Just said "I know".

OK, put these in order, Madison, Adams, Jefferson, Washington.

David

Charles E
09-24-2013, 08:23 PM
You are welcome. I seldom ask a question or start a thread. But after all the threads on "General" that have been "political" I thought it would be good to get back to the base. Funny observation, no one has named them here. Just said "I know".

OK, put these in order, Madison, Adams, Jefferson, Washington.

David& when you're done, add Monroe, Adams (da kid) Jackson, & oh, $hit, I don't know who's next.

Eddie Harren
09-25-2013, 06:43 AM
Not sure about the OP question but a new poll ranks Obama as the 5th best.

Reagan and Lincoln tied for first.
23 tied for second.
17 tied for third.
Jimmy Carter is fourth.
Obama is fifth.

Wayne Shaw
09-25-2013, 10:33 AM
First, who did the pole? MSNBC? WashPo? NYT?

Second, just shows how many flaming idiots there are.

Jimmy Carter? C'mon.....

Nor Cal Mikie
09-25-2013, 10:51 AM
Flunked U.S. History in 10 th. grade. Had to take it over in my senior year. :o If I could name all the Presidents, I would get a passing grade so I could graduate.:cool: I remember most of them to this day. Funny what you can do when you "have to".
Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Jackson, Van Buren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor, Filmore, Pierce, Buchanan, Lincoln, Johnson, Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, Cleveland, Harrison, Cleveland, McKinley, .....
I've forgot the rest. Been too long and not needed anymore.;)

Lee Martin
09-25-2013, 10:52 AM
Second, just shows how many flaming idiots there are.

Jimmy Carter? C'mon.....

+1.

-Lee
www.singleactions.com

Eddie Harren
09-25-2013, 11:19 AM
Wayne, you and Lee need to read it again. Don't make me have to 'splain it to you!

Lee Martin
09-25-2013, 11:27 AM
I read that too fast and missed the quantities.....now that's funny (not to mention spot on).

-Lee
www.singleactions.com

canuck
09-25-2013, 11:29 AM
America has strayed far far from her beginnings and unless she returns there will be plenty more trouble ahead which will only continue to get worse and worse. America was founded on the idea of one nation under God and your forefathers meant it. They weren't just being politically correct for the time. The Liberals and Atheists hate anything Judeo-Christian and will even side with her enemies(Islamists ) to turn America from Conservative values and anything to do with the name of Jesus Christ.Your current president is even regularly courting Islamists.He is acting very unwisely in my opinion.

lion
09-25-2013, 11:33 AM
Canuck:
Very well said, Thank You. Wayne

Wayne Shaw
09-25-2013, 12:24 PM
OK, OK, I see your point.

benenglish
09-25-2013, 05:14 PM
My dad could rattle off all the presidents in order. Of course, he could also do the same with an alphabetical list of the counties of Mississippi, could transcribe morse code as fast as anybody I've ever seen and taught me enough Tagalog to at least start a conversation with a lady.

God, I miss that man, in case you couldn't tell.

When I think back on him, though, I despair for the future. He learned in a one-room schoolhouse in the middle of nowhere, Mississippi. Yet when he was thrown into WWII, he was sharp enough to commit a large volume of facts to memory, facts that could have easily meant the difference between life and death. He learned via simple exercises like reciting the presidents or the counties of his state.

Can kids nowadays answer any question without first clawing for their smartphones?

Phooey.

Ignore me; I'm just feeling curmudgeonly these days.

blades
09-26-2013, 08:45 AM
Aw heck, don't feel bad, ya got over 450 people in DC that can't add and subtract single digit numbers and come up with the correct answer, technology not withstanding. Most of them can't read or comprehend these two sentences as well.

fx77
09-26-2013, 03:10 PM
Heck ,,,I knew that..had a great history teacher and since I had him, I love history, but before him...yeech!

Bill Wynne
09-26-2013, 06:07 PM
On a list of very good Presidents I would place Eisenhower. He could get things done.

Another President who was fairly good who will not be found on a list of great Presidents was Nixon.
Now what do you think?

David Halblom
09-26-2013, 08:07 PM
On a list of very good Presidents I would place Eisenhower. He could get things done.

Another President who was fairly good who will not be found on a list of great Presidents was Nixon.
Now what do you think?

With Eisenhower. but "tricky Dick" was the worst President ever. Even Obama cannot bring the shame on the office that the "paranoid crook" from California brought. Nixon was the plain and simple worst ever.

canuck
09-26-2013, 08:10 PM
On a list of very good Presidents I would place Eisenhower. He could get things done.

Another President who was fairly good who will not be found on a list of great Presidents was Nixon.
Now what do you think?

Nixon actually was one of your best Presidents in my opinion( excluding that little scandal).

Eddie Harren
09-27-2013, 06:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=LemllfcAY8A&sns=em

As usual, I'm in complete disagreement with Halblom, on the Nixon issue. He brought me, and many others, home from the Kennedy-Johnson fiasco in S.E. Asia.

abintx
09-27-2013, 09:52 AM
Nixon actually was one of your best Presidents in my opinion( excluding that little scandal).

I neither cared for, nor voted for Richard Nixon, and he was very paranoid about many things. However, the man was extremely smart. Read his book: No More Vietnams : http://www.amazon.com/No-More-Vietnams-Richard-Nixon/dp/0380701197

abintx
09-27-2013, 10:00 AM
The question should be.. what Presidents should NOT have been President?

That's easy ... the ones who weren't elected! Whether we agree with them or not, the majority of the American people get it right.

Bill Wynne
09-27-2013, 10:28 AM
Richard Nixon got a good many positive things done. He ended the war in Vietnam. He got relations going with China. He enacted the 55 MPH speed limit when we had a gasoline shortage (questionable).

Much can be said about President Nixon but he worked very hard for the American People. That he participated in the coverup of the campaign break in of the Democratic campaign office at the Watergate cannot be denied. He did have flaws. LBJ had some flaws as did JFK and even FDR but the press did not expose these Presidents because of their flaws. With Nixon the press found they had the power take down an American President. He was paranoid with good reason.

Richard Nixon biggest flaw was his pride.

Bill Wynne
09-27-2013, 12:20 PM
With living close to the City Of Detroit, I have come to the realization that more campaign headquarters should be broken into.
One needs to only look at the politics of the infamous Chicago.
I feel there have been far worse presidents than Richard Nixon. I mean, we all feel we need social medicine, right? We need legislation shoved down our collective throats.?!?

Wise words!
Well spoken!

abintx
09-28-2013, 12:44 PM
We need legislation shoved down our collective throats.?!?

Francis, From the day we are born we are subjected to laws. Be they local, city, county, state, or federal. We don't have a choice. One could say that every state that renders the privilege of driving and requires the driver to have a driver's license, registration, a license plate, and insurance, in order to drive, has collectively shoved those requirements down our throats too. And that's just one example.

In general, legislation regulates the way people live and also improves their lives. I'm sure you felt that way about fire safety laws. I bet individuals that you dealt with, those who flaunted fire laws, felt those laws were being shoved down their throats too. What was your answer when they asked "why must I follow fire safety laws?" I'd be surprised if it wasn't along the lines of "it's for everyone's good."

AMMASHOOTA
09-29-2013, 03:17 AM
Can anyone name all 57 states?

Bill Wynne
09-29-2013, 06:43 AM
Can anyone name all 57 states?

I am sorry, I can't help you. I wish I could but I voted for the other guy.

AMMASHOOTA
09-29-2013, 09:54 AM
I am sorry, I can't help you. I wish I could but I voted for the other guy.

Maybe you can help me out and just name the last 7. I was born when there were 48. I do remember Alaska and Hawaii becoming states but I guess I was busy or out of town for the other 7.

James M.
09-29-2013, 06:38 PM
You will have to ask our esteemed BAY-rack for the answer for the last seven. James

Eddie Harren
09-30-2013, 06:41 AM
He must have been referring to Theodore Roosevelt.

Bill Wynne
09-30-2013, 11:06 AM
Maybe you can help me out and just name the last 7. I was born when there were 48. I do remember Alaska and Hawaii becoming states but I guess I was busy or out of town for the other 7.

You got me stumped. There only six Mexican states along the border with the United States so those are not them.

Wildcatter
09-30-2013, 11:17 AM
What was the last World War the US was involved in that didn't advance the Communist cause??

canuck
09-30-2013, 03:15 PM
It's the people who vote in the President. The U.S as a whole has decided on her direction by the leaders they vote in to represent them and it is clear what direction the people have chosen.If they continue to chose that direction I believe the days of the U.S as a great nation are numbered.Your enemies smell blood and are anticipating the fall of your great nation.Your enemies want you to continue on the path you have chosen. What will it take for the people to chose the right way?The U.S was once a righteous Nation but it can hardly be considered as such now.The U.S sends out pornography to all the Nations of the world,every sort of vile behaviour imaginable.They celebrate wickedness and persecute righteousness. As just one small example just look at the difference in public attitude towards abortion. Those who oppose abortion are vilified.The U.S has forsaken their great heritage and for what? There were glimpses of the U.S turning around following 911 but that lasted for about 3 weeks and people again turned to their old ways and even more so. Positive change starts with individuals choosing to do the right thing, making the right choices( often politically incorrect),sometimes tough choices .In the end it will benefit you,your children,grandchildren and NATION. However, no one wants to rock the boat and they compromise a little more and a little more.They concede a little here, a little there.When you look back you are far far from where you started. Now your NATION is only a shadow of her former glory.
The U.S is not alone in this.All the Nations of the world are guilty but there was never a Nation blessed like the U.S.
The U.S was a great Nation when she stood firm on the principles of her forefathers but those principles are almost like a distant memory now.
Obviously I am not a U.S citizen but it is my hope and prayer the U.S turns around and chooses to return to the principles that made her such a great nation. Those principles will bring her back into blessing and she can be greater than ever before.

Wildcatter
10-01-2013, 11:00 AM
What was the last World War the US was involved in that didn't advance the Communist cause??

None that I can remember either.

At the beginning of the big one WW I there were no Communist countries. From 1914 to 1924 15% of the world population came under Communists evil oppression.

The next big one WW II, who won? From 1940 to 1950, during that short 10 year period 43% of the world population and 50% of the land mass came under this most evil movement.

Funny how when we grew up and listened to Pathe News at the movies, no TV yet, and read the Grit and the Washington Post and UPS and AP news feeds we were to believe that the US actually won.

Go figger.....

AMMASHOOTA
10-02-2013, 04:33 AM
You got me stumped. There only six Mexican states along the border with the United States so those are not them.

Islam has 57 states.

vicvanb
10-02-2013, 11:30 AM
There were only 4 POTUSs who really counted: G. Washington, A. Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, F.D. Roosevelt.

JerrySharrett
05-26-2014, 10:53 AM
It's the people who vote in the President.

WRONG WRONG WRONG. In the US the people vote for some political jerks in an organization called the Electoral College and hope, just hope, the Electoral College jerks vote for he same person the voter voted for!!!!!!!!!!

r44astro
05-26-2014, 03:27 PM
Heck! I can not even name the current usurper!

David Halblom
05-26-2014, 06:08 PM
yes,but that is probably intentional...like the rest of us are trying to forget!

I will make this statement. Those who fail to study history are condemned to relive it. Now bring on the flame Mike.

redrockranger
05-27-2014, 06:22 PM
no flame, i agree...
but at the same time one cannot live in history, you have to live today.

Stool i agree with you 100% . There is nothing new under the political sun.

Question for the board? What is the difference between the Socialist Workers Party and the Democrat Party?

r44astro
05-27-2014, 06:56 PM
Stool i agree with you 100% . There is nothing new under the political sun.

Question for the board? What is the difference between the Socialist Workers Party and the Democrat Party?

Nada

Lee Martin
05-29-2014, 08:20 AM
Question for the board? What is the difference between the Socialist Workers Party and the Democrat Party?

Nowadays, very little. Look at what government spending will be as a percent of GDP once Obamacare is in full swing. Then compare that to known socialist economies.....you'll be surprised.

-Lee
www.singleactions.com

hepburn45110
05-31-2014, 10:23 AM
Back to the original question. Who was the first four presidents? The first was Peyton Randolph I think. Served from 1723-1774 under the Continental Congress of United States---- I think---- John Hancock was the third. Don't remember the rest. All total, there were 15 or 16 Presidents of the United States prior to Washington. Washington was the first after the Constitutional Convention.

redrockranger
06-02-2014, 01:36 PM
Back to the original question. Who was the first four presidents? The first was Peyton Randolph I think. Served from 1723-1774 under the Continental Congress of United States---- I think---- John Hancock was the third. Don't remember the rest. All total, there were 15 or 16 Presidents of the United States prior to Washington. Washington was the first after the Constitutional Convention.

I thought it was John Hansen ?????

blades
06-02-2014, 02:47 PM
Dang, now I remember that trick question on a final exam. I did get it right (have no idea now), only because my mom was a History major with a degree in teaching. 3 terms with Ike, then they changed the rules or there might have been a fourth. Then a question far ya all that still have some retention : Who were Ike's VP's.

Bill Wynne
06-02-2014, 05:38 PM
Dang, now I remember that trick question on a final exam. I did get it right (have no idea now), only because my mom was a History major with a degree in teaching. 3 terms with Ike, then they changed the rules or there might have been a fourth. Then a question far ya all that still have some retention : Who were Ike's VP's.

If you don't mind, I would like to correct you, please. Eisenhower was elected and served for two terms. His Vice-President for both terms was Richard Nixon. Eisenhower followed Truman and John Kennedy followed Eisenhower. Franklin D. Roosevelt was first elected in 1932 and was reelected in 1936, 1940 and 1944 and he died in office in 1945 before WW II was over and Truman became President. Roosevelt was the only President to serve more than two terms.

The 23rd amendment to the constitution was passed in congress in 1947 (during the term of Truman) and approved by enough states in 1951 (during the second term of Eisenhower).

The text of that amendment are: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term."

Professor Concho Bill

redrockranger
06-03-2014, 04:16 PM
If you don't mind, I would like to correct you, please. Eisenhower was elected and served for two terms. His Vice-President for both terms was Richard Nixon. Eisenhower followed Truman and John Kennedy followed Eisenhower. Franklin D. Roosevelt was first elected in 1932 and was reelected in 1936, 1940 and 1944 and he died in office in 1945 before WW II was over and Truman became President. Roosevelt was the only President to serve more than two terms.

The 23rd amendment to the constitution was passed in congress in 1947 (during the term of Truman) and approved by enough states in 1951 (during the second term of Eisenhower).

The text of that amendment are: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term."

Professor Concho Bill

The 23 amendment should be extended to the Senate and House also.

Bill Wynne
06-03-2014, 04:38 PM
The 23 amendment should be extended to the Senate and House also.

I agree. It would make for better government.

Professor
06-05-2014, 01:06 AM
I agree. It would make for better government.

Politicians and diapers should be changed frequently.

BOTH for the same reason.

JerrySharrett
06-12-2014, 06:23 AM
If we could just take out 531 more Cantors we would be on a roll.

Well, the Old Dominion needed a boost in conservative opinion. Remember, they voted for McAwful!!!