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Andrew B
04-15-2013, 04:11 PM
I have an opportunity to buy 1,000 pieces of never fired Sako Russian 220 brass. I will use it in a 6mm PPC.

I would appreciate comments on this versus Lapua 220 Russian.

I am concerned about issues such as less case capacity, is it softer brass, will I lose primer pockets faster, etc.

Thanks for any input you have.

Boyd Allen
04-15-2013, 09:55 PM
As I understand it, the old SAKO brass will not take the pressure that the Lapua will, primarily because of the difference in head design. A friend, who has some of the SAKO shoots Lapua. I think that that speaks for itself. On the other hand, If you are content with old school velocities....

alinwa
04-15-2013, 11:49 PM
Ask your supplier if it's old Sako "balloon head" brass or "6PPC USA" brass.

glp
04-16-2013, 09:09 AM
If the SAKO 6 PPC USA headstamp I would like to buy 50 or 100 pieces from you or him. Send me a PM and thanks. Greg

geo.ulrich
04-16-2013, 12:43 PM
Ask your supplier if it's old Sako "balloon head" brass or "6PPC USA" brass.

Al, the old sako 220 Russian was a balloon head design, the usa ppc were already formed to ppc but not a balloon head design. the guy should have sold them when they were 4-6 $ per case. george

GerryM
04-16-2013, 10:20 PM
I'm useing the old sako brass in one of my ppc s No problems so far. Ballon head or not its holding up.
I think th e problem with it came frome useing it in a rifle with too much space between the bolt and the brack of the barrel.
If that clearance was too big it would put a ring and weak spot just forward of the case head, causing a bulge and later a blow out.
Ive seen that happen on remngton actions, with too much gap.
In my stolle s no problems. sako russian not USA cases

Boyd Allen
04-16-2013, 11:30 PM
How hot are your loads? What kind of velocities are you getting?

alinwa
04-17-2013, 01:24 AM
I apologize for mis-remembering the op. He SAID "220 Russian" so it's definitely not "USA" as I mentioned.

I think it was Geza Nagy's theory that the balloon head "swiveled" to meet the boltface without producing accuracy-destroying vibrations....

al

Stonewall
04-17-2013, 12:00 PM
You could load that old Sako .220 Russian with 24.8 gr of H-4198 and a 65-68 grain Berger for 3165 fps .
Then fire these for fifty rounds each case using Wilson neck dies only F.L. resizing twice.


Glenn

Dick Grosbier
04-20-2013, 08:14 PM
I would appreciate comments on this versus Lapua 220 Russian.


Don't waste your money, buy the Lapua.

GerryM
04-20-2013, 09:13 PM
Ive used 28.5 grains of VV 133 No problems,
Dicks right though the new lapua is better.

Dick Grosbier
04-21-2013, 08:39 AM
It would have to be a terrific price to tempt me , it was the best brass for a PPC we had back then and would still be good for plinking or mild to moderate pressure varmint loads. In real competition with the high cost of bullets, powder, primers, and traveling it would be money thrown down the drain IMO.

Real shame the owner did not sell back before the Lapua brass became available, at that time (as previously stated) these cases were bringing $3-$4 each . Before the inflation we were all complaining about their high price at $.58 cents each (thats what I paid for 200)