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Flat Land
04-09-2013, 06:32 PM
If you are going to purchase your first annealing machine and want the best bang for the buck, which one do you purchase???

Any info/feedback is appreciated.

dansig
04-09-2013, 06:46 PM
Bench Source with out a doubt, good price, great quality and easy to operate..

http://www.bench-source.com/id81.html

jfesi
04-09-2013, 08:27 PM
+1 on the Benchsource. Quality machine that is easy and repeatable to setup.

Andy Cross
04-09-2013, 11:17 PM
One really has to consider if messing around saving brass that has had enough firings to warrant annealing is worth the trouble even if you get a bit more life out of them.
Andy.

kansasvet
04-09-2013, 11:27 PM
I really like my Bench Source. I anneal new brass with it also. I have found the new brass the last couple of years to be hard from the start. I experimented with expanding the necks right out of the package versus annealing and expanding, the necks expanded easier and with more uniform pressure when they were annealed.

DSM
04-10-2013, 12:03 AM
One really has to consider if messing around saving brass that has had enough firings to warrant annealing is worth the trouble even if you get a bit more life out of them.
Andy.

Absolutely. Its not about brass life, its about consistent neck tension. I anneal every firing.

Andy Cross
04-10-2013, 01:59 AM
Absolutely. Its not about brass life, its about consistent neck tension. I anneal every firing.

I and glad and consider myself lucky not to have any brass from that batch you have.
Andy.

Greyfox
04-10-2013, 09:18 AM
I have a Ken Light and a friend has a Giraud. Both are good machines and will do the job. They all have a learning curve. I don't know that any one is better than another.

Rick

glp
04-10-2013, 11:51 AM
I guess you have to weigh the need, the number of brass, the cost, before you make a decision to buy, if in fact you buy. Ohhh, decisions, decisions.

I hate making cases. I'd rather paint! I'm on my fourth year with the same cases for a Shilen barreled Teddy in 30 BR. Occasional FL resizing with a Harrels #3 die and annealing to restore neck tension are a couple of things that's helped make that possible. I may retire these soon and make 15 new ones.

Flat Land
04-10-2013, 01:12 PM
Thanks to everyone who took the time to reply. You have given me lots to think about prior to any decisions.

DSM
04-11-2013, 12:52 AM
I and glad and consider myself lucky not to have any brass from that batch you have.
Andy.
Not sure what that has to do with annealing, but hey, self confidence is a good thing.

Andy Cross
04-11-2013, 05:04 AM
Not sure what that has to do with annealing, but hey, self confidence is a good thing.

Well if I had to anneal the brass after a couple of loads to maintain even neck tensions I'd toss it and invest in some more brass that did maintain even tensions. That is if the tensions are really altering. Difficult to test accurately. A lot of myths BR shooters do a song and dance routine about is just that a myth. But if it makes them feel better. Personally I couldn't and wouldn't waste that much time on brass that might not be behaving itself.
Andy.

GerryM
04-11-2013, 09:31 AM
A lead pot will work just as well.

jim1K
04-11-2013, 09:41 AM
I find that with annealing i gain consistent neck tension and you can shoot it for ever. With well over 30 firings it was good enough to shoot a record...... jim

Andy Cross
04-12-2013, 05:17 AM
If you get a good batch of brass I found I could shoot them a lot more than 30 loads without ever going near an annealing machine. In fact one batch of 100 cases shot out 3 barrels. The primer pockets became loose but the neck tensions remained even.
Andy.

jim1K
04-12-2013, 08:06 AM
Andy, That his my problem i can't seem to wear out the Brux barrels. They may not be as sharp as they were but they can send those long 6mm bullets in small groups at 1K....... jim