View Full Version : Alliant 1200R

10-26-2012, 04:09 PM
I see Powder Valley has this in stock so some may have tried it in a 25-35gr cartridge. Burn speed supposedly same or approx to Alliant's RL10x but 1200R is spherical.

I'm quite in love with X-Terminator in a Waldog but have found AA 2200 is accurate in the same chambering with a slower 1-15" twist so this powder would have to really be great for me to change but it's something new to chat about so what do you guys know?

Tim jurczak

10-26-2012, 07:01 PM
never heard or it. Lee

10-26-2012, 07:34 PM
Be the first on the block and let us know. I shoot in cast bullet competition and I waited a year for the new 300MP to hit the streets once they announced it. It two is one of their new ball powders and it turned out to be a real winner for me and still is. It was kind of unique to get Lot#1 and I plan to hang onto to those containers as they are just plan cool to have and having it turn out to be the best to date was even cooler. I spent that year of waiting sending e-mails to the tech's posing all my questions and getting some real interesting answers. It made the waiting thing very fun as well as interesting as we use reduced charges in our Schuetzen loads and they don't even want to go there. When I got things sorted out and developed a matching winning combination I sent it to them with a big thanks for bringing out the new powder and then their interest changed in the form of a big unseen smile. But you will never see any loading data in any of their manuals and that's fully understandable, it all made for real good time.


10-26-2012, 08:01 PM
Ballpowder where did you get wind of the new powder there is nothing on the their web site, I would like to read up on it.


10-27-2012, 02:22 AM
I saw it in the Daily Bulletin over on the accurateshooter.com. Says it was released mid-September along with RL33 which is a slow one that has chemical similarities to the newish RL17. RL33 has been getting some play on forums and even Layne Simpson did a little preview, but unless Alliant wants to get stuck with the whole lot of this 1200R one would think the would invest in some advertising.

Anyway good powder is good powder regardless of its makers salesmanship skills. Thought I'd put out the feelers....


Charles E
10-27-2012, 04:54 AM
...so what do you guys know?Tim jurczak
That George Kelby once remarked that no world-class competitive benchrest shooter ever used a ball powder for more that a season...

No amplification on that remark that I know of. As a WAG, I'd guess that the burn rate of a ball powder, and several of the double-base Alliant powders, is dialed in by having different size/different coating thickness of the granules in the canister. People used to sift ball powder and claim better accuracy, probably through consistency. They also noted that the smaller sifts had a faster burn rate, and IIRC, the smaller sifts were more accurate.

It makes me wonder about some others, too, even single-based stick powders like H-4831 SC. Same characteristics as regular H-4831 we're told, and I don't doubt that. Nor do I know anything, but if the granules are smaller for the same burn rate, doesn't the coating have to do more of the work?

Long stick powders sure are a nuisance if you're throwing powder, but it is hard to beat the consistency. & to go even farther out on the limb, the same consistency issues with heavy deterrent coatings.

OK, bring on the saw...

Pete Wass
11-01-2012, 01:52 PM
So, if smaller is better, why not grind it a bit?