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eww1350
05-22-2012, 02:26 PM
I just heard a strange rumor...a friend called Sinclair Int. to order some dies and the phone was answered "BRUNOS how may I help you"..:confused:

Fact or Fiction...??



Eddie in TX

lefty o
05-22-2012, 02:45 PM
i highly doubt it, sinclair has been owned by brownells for a few years now.

Cheechako
05-22-2012, 02:49 PM
The answerer probably said, "Brownells how may I help you?"

GerryM
05-22-2012, 09:44 PM
The last i heard brownells midway and sinclair all have the same owner Potterfied owner of midway

Larry Elliott
05-22-2012, 09:59 PM
First I'd heard that Potterfield owned Brownell's and Sinclair. It's looked to me that lately Midway was in direct competition with Brownell's. Sounds like rumor mill stuff to me.

lefty o
05-22-2012, 11:03 PM
potterfield doesnt have anything to do with brownells.

LHSmith
05-22-2012, 11:52 PM
potterfield doesnt have anything to do with brownells.

Let's hope it stays that way......there's enough chinese junk on the shooting sports market

max.burgess
05-23-2012, 12:15 AM
I hope so I quit doing business with Midway when they were going to charge me shipping 3 times on a order ( on stuff that was out of stock)
Max

Butch Lambert
05-23-2012, 10:53 AM
I will not buy from Midway!

ehparis
05-25-2012, 04:36 PM
With every order I get from Sinclair's I get some Brownell's material. Nothing has changed. Brownell's still own Sinclair.

Jerry

Yote
05-25-2012, 10:45 PM
I will not buy from Midway!

Ditto!!

ehparis
05-26-2012, 04:14 PM
I will not buy from Midway!

I live just down the interstate from MidWAY USA and get great service and quickly deserved items. They're the first place I go to if they have what I want in stock. I had to return some items I ordered by mistake. They never hesitated just gave me credit. Can't do enough to sing MidWAY's praise. Sorry others haven't had such experiences.

deadwooddick
05-27-2012, 09:17 AM
I will not buy from Midway!

+1

adamsgt
05-27-2012, 10:12 AM
Well, I buy from Bruno reluctantly. I've had a bad experience with him. But if he has what I want at a better price then I'll deal, cautiously. Finally decided that totally boycotting a seller because they pissed me off on one thing is self defeating if I can take measures to protect myself . Caveat Emptor. Last issue I had with Midway, over shipping, was when Larry Potterfield still answered the phone himself.

Butch Lambert
05-27-2012, 10:49 AM
A very good, honest, and all around best place to buy is Russ Haydon's Shooters Supply.

UncleB
05-27-2012, 11:59 AM
Lester Bruno seem's to have a bad rep with some of you, He has always treated me well and I stop in a couple times a year when I go to Phoenix.
Pretty sure he is independant.

KEITH MYERS
05-27-2012, 12:00 PM
Always 100% satisfied with Russ and Marsha

DaveM
05-28-2012, 08:28 AM
Another +1 for Russ and Marsha. They are a pleasure to do business with and don't try and rip you off on additional shipping add on costs. I always receive my order in 2 days even though they on the other side of the country. I just wish they carried more items so I could use them all the time.

HFV
05-28-2012, 10:56 AM
A friend of mine,, (Charlie Hardwick) ordered three cleaning rods,,, paid shipping for each, but all on same order. HFV
I hope so I quit doing business with Midway when they were going to charge me shipping 3 times on a order ( on stuff that was out of stock)
Max

Rflshootr
05-28-2012, 02:07 PM
I will not buy from Midway!

+1 ...

JerrySharrett
05-29-2012, 04:37 PM
Sinclair International now is owned by Brownells. Brownells bought them some time ago. I had a long talk with Geoff Easterline at the SS about it. Geoff is some of the top management and was moved from Indiana to Iowa about a year ago or so. Most of the SI inventory is being moved and many of the operators are working from home while the transition is taking place.

Gunner223
05-29-2012, 11:51 PM
Midway is a great place ro buy from. Quick service, good prices and they use the USPS flat rate boxes. Bruno's has always been good also.

Don Carper

max.burgess
06-01-2012, 03:24 AM
I didn't order any cleaning rods. I tried to place a order with 4 or 5 items & they were out of most of it. They were going to ship what they hod & ever time something came in they would ship it with another 15 dollar shipping charge. Most places I deal with charge one time.
Max

Dick Grosbier
06-01-2012, 11:19 AM
I didn't order any cleaning rods. I tried to place a order with 4 or 5 items & they were out of most of it. They were going to ship what they hod & ever time something came in they would ship it with another 15 dollar shipping charge. Most places I deal with charge one time.
Max

Shipping of cleaning rods is aways an expensive proposition,generally anything oversize or heavy will cost a premium for shipping. Some businesses have special flat rate shipping charges this is generally a good deal on items like cleaning rods but you pay a little more on regular orders. I see Bruno's criticized a lot here for high shipping charges. Perhaps some of this is justified but people tend to forget he frequently has the merchandise you want and at competitive prices for the actual merchandise. Making a good portion of your profit on delivery and shipping charges comes with the program with these type businesses.
I shop many places online that offer free shipping this tends to ruin you for places that charge shipping but you must remember BR shooting supplies is a big business to us shooters but it is a practically nonexistent industry to mainstream companies which means you are gonna have to bear the brunt of the shipping and handling charges. Handling is more than a few cents, packing supplies cost money, as does the person to pull and pack the merchandise. My ex poss at a large camera store said it cost at least 10% JUST to handle a piece of merchandise in and out of our store.

Dick

ReedG
06-01-2012, 01:00 PM
Interesting to see all the different experiences. I have bought thousands of dollars of stuff from Midway in the past dozen years and never had a problem, overcharge or exorbitant shipping charge on any order. They have been great for me. Lately, I buy what I can from Powder Valley or Ron Hoehn and the rest from Midway, MidSouth, Natchez, Graf, Sinclair, or whoever has it when I need it. Overall, I think we are fortunate to have so many choices. In my rural area of Vermont the local dealers carry just about nothing of use to competitive shooters. I once made up a computer list of the items I use most when loading and shooting and gave it to my local shop. I told him that if he would carry the stuff, I would be happy to buy from him instead of online. He took a glance at my list, handed it back to me, and commented, "Nah, there's no interest around here in reloading".

I am more concerned about the shipping and "hazmat" charges than the suppliers' prices. The UPS guy who delivers to me makes more a week than my SSI monthly check.

Joe Maisto
06-02-2012, 06:06 AM
I didn't order any cleaning rods. I tried to place a order with 4 or 5 items & they were out of most of it. They were going to ship what they hod & ever time something came in they would ship it with another 15 dollar shipping charge. Most places I deal with charge one time.
Max


I feel as you do about shipping, handling and such. When I mail my products, there is no handling charge. Furthermore, I use USPS because it's costs a great deal less than the others, thereby passing the savings onto the buyer. Futhermore, I only charge what it actually costs me, ( in addition to taking the time to drive to the post office and mail it)

I've always heard a good businessman has to have a bit of larceny in his heart to make any money, but i've never been able to go there.

skeetlee
06-02-2012, 01:00 PM
I dont mind paying a little extra for the benchrest items Dick was speaking of. What i dont like is the hidden expenses. I think it would be better business to have all costs included in the price from the get go. This way there isnt any shock, or wondering what the deal is, after the order has been placed. Up front and direct is always a better approach. If am item cost 100$ and there is a 12$ handling fee, then just advertise the item for 112$ Plus shipping. These retailers want to have the lowest listed price of the competitors on there web sites, but if there is hidden fees applied, then maybe it isnt as cheap as the next guys price?? It almost feels like they think we are a bunch of dummies. Just my take on the hole thing. I know my take isnt worth much, but its still mine. I dont mind paying a little extra for an item thats in stock, that would otherwise taken me 6 months of wait time to get. Just tell me what its going to cost up front, so i can make up my mind if that particular item is worth the wait, or the extra expense. I like Lester Bruno, and the crew there. They have always been real helpful. I am just speaking in general here. Lee