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Travelor
07-01-2011, 09:11 AM
Sorry if I am opening a can of worms here, but I am trying to learn. I am not a BR competitor, but I do have some good guns with tuners and of late, J&J Slides. I am match director of our Club's Old Farts Match which is held every Thursday and we shoot twice a month at bullseye targets from the bench at 100 yards on the Mini Palma target. The other 2 Thursdays we shoot 1/5th scale silhouette animals at 100 yards (chicken), 125 yards (pig), 150 yards (turkeys), and 175 yards (rams) from the bench. Our little group has gotten pretty tough,but so far I have the Club record at each type of match - but I am always looking for a better score as the competition keeps getting better.

I have been shooting Eley ammo of different types for years in the 1050 fps +/- 5 fps per the box data for years. I have just opened a new case of Eley Club (I thought it was 1051 when I bought it a a large Match years ago) which shows a speed of 1071 and it out shoots all my other Eley ammo in the 1050 range. I know that different lots shoot differently and I may have just gotten a lot than my gun really likes. I am currently shooting a custom Martini Mk III built by MT Guns with a Benchmade 3-groove 16.5 twist barrel and have just received a MT Guns Anschutz 54 that has not been to the range yet.

My question is this - have you found ammo in the 1070 range shoot better for you than ammo in the 1050 range?

George

Doug
07-01-2011, 09:49 AM
George,
Speed does not make a difference if your rifle likes it. For the last 3 years the best ammo I could find that shot indoor, outdoors, 50deg or 100 deg has usually been 1070 to 1074. (Usually the 3 Machine) So what does that tell you? Nothing except what my 40X Likes & What I Trust!!

Travelor
07-01-2011, 09:52 AM
Thanks Doug.

George

crb
07-01-2011, 09:02 PM
My Hall / Hart likes 1070-1 machine. I have a 2013 that has a bit of a 'long' chamber and I can find a tuner setting [ simple Fudd tuner, no less ] for any Eley EPS that I have ever tried in it. The velocity or the loading machine doesn't make any difference to this bbl.

Pete Wass
07-06-2011, 09:15 AM
My Hall / Hart likes 1070-1 machine. I have a 2013 that has a bit of a 'long' chamber and I can find a tuner setting [ simple Fudd tuner, no less ] for any Eley EPS that I have ever tried in it. The velocity or the loading machine doesn't make any difference to this bbl.

Perhaps it's the Long Chamber"?

tim
07-08-2011, 12:02 AM
You might want to also throw in the fact that speeds 3-4 years back don't equate to todays posted box speeds..... different test barrels apparantly.

langenc
07-13-2011, 12:08 AM
If your group is tired of shooting those animals why not try the USBR target-25 and 50 yards??
Contact Joe Haller for advice as to the best way to implement.

2kbill
07-15-2011, 10:56 PM
George,

I'm brand new to this site and not a BR competitor either, but I thought I'd chime in anyway. I've had an MT Guns Annie 54 for a few months too, and found that it was more consistent with ammo in the 1075 neighborhood than what I've tried that was in the 1050 range. Without the tuner, it shot Midas plus best, so that's what I've been using. When I have the time and money, I'll try to tune it with black box and see what happens. I really like the MT, by the way.

Bill

Travelor
07-17-2011, 07:10 AM
Speaking of USBR targets, our group shot the IR 50/50 targets yesterday as a trial run. Results were 2 out of 3 shooters scoring 250, one with 11's and the other with 13x's. the 3rd shooter scored 247-11X.

Interesting,

George

langenc
07-17-2011, 03:13 PM
Next time you trial the IR50/50, also give each shooter a USBR for comparison. Would make a nice comparison-same weather, most likely-same shooters and same equipment/ammo. Wonder how the scores would compare?