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Richard429
05-08-2011, 09:11 PM
Hello, new member here. I guess I should have posted this here first. Had it in rimfire benchrest first, 96 views and no replies.
I received this bolt with a box of match brass. The previous owner of the brass knows nothing about this bolt. Maybe someone here can help. Anyone know what rifle it may go to?11208112091121011211

RHM43
05-08-2011, 10:00 PM
Looks like a CZ rim fire bolt that has been jeweled..

Butch Lambert
05-08-2011, 10:47 PM
Doesn,t look like either of my CZ bolts or my Brno.
Butch

okbob51
05-08-2011, 10:58 PM
Cz

Richard429
05-08-2011, 11:42 PM
Thank you for the replies. Keep 'em coming. I'll have to find a dealer that stocks some CZ and see how close they are. I saw a video on you tube for disassembly of a CZ 452 and the best I could tell it looked similar.

mike in co
05-09-2011, 12:26 AM
call cz usa,( kansas city) ask for mike....thier gunsmith and send him the pics

mike in co

Steve Nash
05-09-2011, 05:31 AM
Looks like a CZ to me...the jeweled bolt version was brought out in the Golden Anniversary Limited Edition model and the 453 Premium model over here.

Steve

Ian_Owen
05-09-2011, 07:07 AM
Definatey looks like my CZ or my Brno Model 2 or 5........except mine aren't jewelled.

If you want to sell it I have a rifle with no bolt that would like to get cosy with it.........Ian

bill larson
05-09-2011, 07:27 AM
Cz-452

JerrySharrett
05-09-2011, 08:00 AM
I have a CZ 452 American and CZ 452 Classic and they both have this same exact bolt, sans the jeweling.

Richard429
05-13-2011, 11:29 PM
Thanks everyone for the replies. Going to a CZ dealer tomorrow to be absolutely sure.
Ian, I think with it being an export/import, the paperwork may be too much.

Richard429
05-14-2011, 08:50 PM
Went to 3 gunshops today. One dealer had a CZ 452 in 22 mag. Bolt looked identical, except that bolt was NOT jeweled. I have 2 of these, both look new and are jeweled. Any idea what they're worth?

J. Valentine
05-17-2011, 05:43 AM
The bluing is more shiny and deeper blue than a Brno cz and the safety lever slightly different to my Brno's so I think it may be from the Norinco jw15 a Chinese copy of a Brno CZ . Also CZ bolts usually have a hollow in the bolt knob Norinco's don't.

Richard429
05-17-2011, 10:27 PM
Thank you J. Valentine.

J. Valentine
05-18-2011, 08:16 AM
No problemo . The Norinco bolt sells for about $119 dollars retail .

Ian_Owen
05-19-2011, 05:14 AM
Looks like the Norinco bolt new sells for more than I paid for a new Brno model 1 bolt.........Ian

J. Valentine
05-20-2011, 12:20 AM
Looks like the Norinco bolt new sells for more than I paid for a new Brno model 1 bolt.........Ian

I thought it was a bit dear also for a Chinese bolt but that is what I read . However it could be wrong I have never bought one .
Ian I have been trying to contact you with a question about the best place to hunt some Red deer in the south island. A guy I know is coming over to hunt on an open DOC permit and wanted some advice . I said the Waitutu Forest but I wanted to get some advice from you but you don't answer my emails.
Where is a good place where Red deer numbers are good?

Ian_Owen
05-20-2011, 06:06 AM
I thought it was a bit dear also for a Chinese bolt but that is what I read . However it could be wrong I have never bought one .
Ian I have been trying to contact you with a question about the best place to hunt some Red deer in the south island. A guy I know is coming over to hunt on an open DOC permit and wanted some advice . I said the Waitutu Forest but I wanted to get some advice from you but you don't answer my emails.
Where is a good place where Red deer numbers are good?

Sorry I haven't been ignoring ou I just haven't recieved any emails from you......PM sent......Ian

da357mag
05-20-2011, 11:05 PM
Hey guys those bolts retail for $190.00! plus the $60.00 I jeweled them for I posted earlier, I don't know what happened! I can tell there the ones I did because the bottom of the firing pin is polished!

da357mag
05-20-2011, 11:10 PM
I am sure the owner of the bolts would like to have them back! They were lost in transit to him and he received the package missing 3 bolts all together!

My email is marshda56@yahoo.com As I said i'm sure the gentleman that owns them would like to have them back! Thanks Doug

It just dawned on me, you guys are in New Zealand! How the hell did they get all the way over there? When you started talking about red deer that was the tip off!
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad68/da357mag/100_0213-1.jpg'

Look familiar? I do this for a living! So I know my own work.:) Doug

Ian_Owen
05-21-2011, 03:36 AM
Doug, I am in New Zealand..........I don't think the others are, and I think the bolts are still in the USA......Ian

dbr65
05-21-2011, 09:40 AM
Richard,

I'm pretty sure that is/those are my bolts -- three were lost in transit in mid-April (I sent you a PM including the last three digits of the rifle serial numbers that appear on the base of the bolt handle(s)). If they match, definitely mine. How in the world they got into your brass shipment is truly a wonder!?! Needless to say, it would be terrific to get them back!

Doug

brian roberts
05-27-2011, 06:56 PM
Diddledy-Diddledy-DUMM.....Bolts? or NO bolts?

WHAT has happened to the bolts??

(Its been 7 days, inquiring minds want to know.) :D

dbr65
05-28-2011, 05:29 PM
Does anyone on this forum know Richard429 or know how to contact him? I sent him a PM, but it appears he hasn't been back to the forum for some time. There is apparently no way to send him an Email through the forum either. I'm just hoping that my bolts (pretty certain of it) are still available, but...

Doug

Ian_Owen
05-28-2011, 07:17 PM
Give Wilber a shout.......not sure what it takes to register now but he most likely had to put down a valid email address.

I see his last activity was on the 18th, not sure if that was when he last visited or when he last posted.

Good luck at recovering your bolts..........Ian

IndianaJames
05-28-2011, 08:34 PM
I second the idea to call Wilbur. He's been helpful in the past...kind of hard to catch at home, though.

Jim

dbr65
05-29-2011, 05:02 PM
OK, maybe I'm a bit dense, but how do I contact Wilbur? Sorry if that's a stupid question.

Doug

Richard429
05-31-2011, 10:40 PM
Email sent.

dbr65
06-01-2011, 09:53 PM
Thanks to the help of IndianaJames and Wilbur I have been able to get in contact with Richard429 and we've confirmed that these are my bolts (via the three numbers on the base of each bolt handle) and I should have them back soon! This has truly been a mystery wrapped in an enigma -- or at least really weird! Still one missing -- I can hope.

Doug

dbr65
06-15-2011, 01:05 PM
I am VERY happy to report that I now have my two bolts back and they are resting comfortably in their respective rifles. :-) I suspect that the third one will never be seen again, but... IndianaJames, Wilbur and Richard429 made it happen and I am very grateful! How this all happened is and will likely remain a mystery, but then the government (USPS) was involved, so...

Doug

da357mag
06-17-2011, 07:59 PM
Hi Doug! It's the other Doug. I'm glad you finally got the bolts! What a story they could tell! lol! I guess two out of three ain't bad overall! Looks like I'm becoming "recognized"! just would be too much to think the other one would show up somewhere! Good day! DA