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LTRDavid
11-07-2010, 06:17 PM
Greetings, I am a new member and I am interested in shooting Varmint for Score next year. My plan is to prepare this winter. Right now I am a sponge wanting to learn all I can to prepare a plan for building a rifle, a load and start practicing. Any suggestions on where to go online or books/articles to read would be much appreciated. From what I have been able to learn so far is 30BR is the cartridge to go with and a 35 to 40 power scope with a 1/8 min dot scope, e.g. the Leupold Competition 40x45 Riflescope 1/8 Min Dot Reticle 30mm Tube Matte is the type glass required.

Thanks in advance for helping a new guy get started.

skeetlee
11-07-2010, 06:25 PM
welcome to the madness! There is some good reading material over on accurate shooter.com. Just goggle 6mmBR forums and you will find it. There are a few article dedicated to the 30BR. I also like varmint for score. It is probably my favorite game!! Are you going to buy a used rifle or build one? Do your homework and you will be fine. Ronnie long builds really nice 30BR rifles and he just had an advertisement for one a few days ago on 6mmbr.com It will cost you but it will probably shoot lights out. Just read as much as you can. there are some really good folks on these boards so dont be afraid to ask questions. Enjoy and good luck. Feel free to call me if there is anything i can help you with. I dont know a hole lot about all this but i can probably steer you in the proper direction of who does. 217 246 0787 Lee

LTRDavid
11-08-2010, 08:32 AM
Thank you Lee, for the warm welcome and helpful suggestions. Any thoughts on a scope? Any suggestions and comments are welcomed.

mks
11-08-2010, 01:14 PM
Greetings, I am a new member and I am interested in shooting Varmint for Score next year. My plan is to prepare this winter. Right now I am a sponge wanting to learn all I can to prepare a plan for building a rifle, a load and start practicing. Any suggestions on where to go online or books/articles to read would be much appreciated. From what I have been able to learn so far is 30BR is the cartridge to go with and a 35 to 40 power scope with a 1/8 min dot scope, e.g. the Leupold Competition 40x45 Riflescope 1/8 Min Dot Reticle 30mm Tube Matte is the type glass required.

Thanks in advance for helping a new guy get started.

Welcome, hope to see you at Gallatin next summer. 30BR is the standard in TN, with a 30 Major (Grendel) or two on the line. If you find a good deal on a used rifle with PPC boltface rather than BR, don't be afraid to rebarrel to 30 Major. The 12-42 Nightforce seems to be popular, with 40 and 45 Leupold, and 36 Leupold, Sightron and Weaver also used. A few March's, too. I use the 45 Leupold. I like the extra magnification, but more than about 45 seems unnecessary. The dot just gets in the way for me. If you have a hard time seeing fine cross hairs, you might like the dot. 6mmBR has a nice page on the development and loading of the 30BR.

Since you are in TN, DanH can help you fit a "possum belly" to your gun.:D

Cheers,
Keith

HovisKM
11-08-2010, 01:19 PM
Welcome to Benchrest Central.

Hovis

LTRDavid
11-08-2010, 07:56 PM
Thx Hovis and Keith. I ordered the Leupold 45x45 and I got the 1/8 min dot reticle.

re: Gallatin, yes that's the plan.

Next I need to decide what action and bbl to get...

skeetlee
11-08-2010, 08:55 PM
Tom Haverkamp has a real nice plain Jane action thats affordable and would be ideal for a 30br. Check them out! There are several others as well but they will cost a bit more. Maybe a nice used rifle is the best way to start out. you will save a bunch of time and money. Lots of good stocks to. I kinda like the Robertson stocks and i like tom Meredith's stock. Good luck! Lee

Dick Grosbier
11-08-2010, 09:19 PM
Read this if you have not already, very informative.

http://www.6mmbr.com/30BR.html

LTRDavid
12-14-2010, 02:50 PM
Thx for the info guys. I ordered a Stiller P-1000 action today. Next step is to get a barrel ordered. Lead times seem to be a driving issue in order to be ready this Spring. Thx again.

333smitty
12-14-2010, 06:06 PM
Thx for the info guys. I ordered a Stiller P-1000 action today. Next step is to get a barrel ordered. Lead times seem to be a driving issue in order to be ready this Spring. Thx again.

David,

If you need a 30BR barrel "yesterday" always try Brunoshooters first.

http://www.brunoshooters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BSS&Category_Code=2KR30

Just remember the smallest agg in the history of Benchrest was shot with a 1-17 .308 Krieger H/V.

mike cockcroft
12-14-2010, 06:45 PM
If your the LTRDavid i think you are, you are definitly not new to shooting.

LTRDavid
12-14-2010, 07:34 PM
Thx for the tip 333Smitty. Yes Mike, I do have some experience with Longrange Tactical stuff, but I view this benchrest thing as a whole new game.

mwezell
12-14-2010, 08:46 PM
David, I'm a regular at Gallatin, I welcome you. We have a fine group of people, and shooters there. I'm sure you will be welcomed by all. I look forward to meeting you. Rick Fox is match director. He can be reached at tnmountainaire@bellsouth.net
Gallatin offers a challenge for sure, and there are a couple more ranges within a fair distance of there. Where in Tn. do you live? -Mike Ezell

mks
12-15-2010, 12:15 PM
Thx for the info guys. I ordered a Stiller P-1000 action today. Next step is to get a barrel ordered. Lead times seem to be a driving issue in order to be ready this Spring. Thx again.

David,
What front rest do you have? For score shooting, a joy stick rest is very useful (such as Farley, SEB, Shade Tree). When we run multiple relays, there is usually a chance to use someone else's rest so you can try them out.

Happy Holidays,
Keith

LTRDavid
12-15-2010, 12:32 PM
Hey Mike, I am in Lebanon. We know each other and I know Rick too. You may recall, I'm the guy who showed-up at one of the matches with a suppressed .308 a while back, summer before last.

re: bbls, Bruno lists the following 17 & 18 twist bbls. Any suggestions on which one??

K1086 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-17tw #17 HV @ 29" 1.250 x .900 $299.95
K1076 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-17tw #17 HV @ 31" 1.250x.900 $319.95
K1081 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-17tw #18 LV @ 29" 1.200 x .875 $299.95
K1050 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-17tw #18 LV @ 31" $319.95
K1138 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-17tw #19 HC @ 29" 1.250 x .750 $299.95
K1169 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-18tw #17 HV @ 29" $299.95
K1168 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-18tw #17 HV @ 31" 1.250 x 900 $319.95
K1056 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-18tw #18 LV @ 29" $299.95
K1166 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-18tw LV @ 31" 1.200x.875 $319.95
K1183 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-18tw Straight @ 29" 1.250 x 1.250 $299.95
K1180 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-18tw Straight @ 29" 1.350 x 1.350 $299.95
K1182 Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-18tw Straight @ 29" 1.450 x 1.450 $374.95

LTRDavid
05-11-2012, 01:56 PM
It's been a while since I initiated this thread. Things sort of got in the way of the progress that I had planned when I first posted. BTW, thanks to all who replied. I apologize for not realizing there were private messages for me by several folks. Anyway, I have a rifle. Here are the particulars;

Kelbly Klub stock with a custom vinyl wrap
Jewell BR Trigger
Bruno Matte ADL AL Trigger Guard
P1000 SA Right Bolt, Left Port, Right Eject
Picatinny Rail #40 for P1000
Krieger Barrel 30cal 1-17, 23" taper
30 BR Robinette Finisher Reamer
Leupold 45x45 Competition
Nightforce Ring Set A101 - 1.000" Medium - 30mm - Ultralite

and a picture from my second outing with the gun today where I was load developing;

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12590

I use an RCBS ChargeMaster (connected to an inverter in my SUV) to charge cases that are already prepped and primed with a Sinclair primer tool and a Wilson hand die to seat Fowler 117's.

The first outing with the rifle was to break-in the barrel which I will post about in another thread. Next step, do a production run of ammo and go practice to prepare for next month's match out at Gallatin.

Thanks again to everyone for their help.

mwezell
05-11-2012, 10:03 PM
Sorry I didn't get back with you on your last post. I look forward to seeing you there. That club just keeps growing!!--Mike

ehparis
05-16-2012, 05:23 PM
Greetings, I am a new member and I am interested in shooting Varmint for Score next year. My plan is to prepare this winter. Right now I am a sponge wanting to learn all I can to prepare a plan for building a rifle, a load and start practicing. Any suggestions on where to go online or books/articles to read would be much appreciated. From what I have been able to learn so far is 30BR is the cartridge to go with and a 35 to 40 power scope with a 1/8 min dot scope, e.g. the Leupold Competition 40x45 Riflescope 1/8 Min Dot Reticle 30mm Tube Matte is the type glass required.

Thanks in advance for helping a new guy get started.

This brings up a question for me that I plan to ask George Kelbly about when I inquire about a March scope. I'm getting back into benchrest shooting and looking for a scope. I notice that Sinclair only has Leupolds listed in 30mm. Is that what's common in the game today? Back when I was shooting Wally Sibert converts and Leupold 36xs all the tubes were one inch. Guess this old dog will have to pick up some new tricks.

ehparis
05-25-2012, 04:58 PM
Consider buying "The Benchrest Shooting Primer" from Sinclair International. It's a big book with the history of benchrest shooting from Prrecision Shooting Magazine 1982-1996. Some of the "old" ideas, such as shooting in wind, are as valid today as they were when originally written. It's also a great book for a trip down nostalgia lane. It's nice to know your roots if you're into benchrest shooting and this is the book for it.