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Kurly
05-10-2010, 09:23 AM
I've got an Ivy's cleaning rod with an integrated jag on it so I'm unable to put a brush on it to clean my Benchmark barrel with it. I've read that when using a brass brush, it's best to cycle the rod/brush all the way through the barrel to prevent any scratching when the bristles are 'turned' the other way mid-way through the stroke.

I can see a slight carbon ring and would like to remove it but short of buying another rod, could I simply take a nylon brush and short-stroke it back and forth right where the carbon ring is without worrying about damaging the barrel? I wouldn't be able to use a bore guide for this process but was hoping the collective could weigh in on the pros/cons of doing it this way. I have tried using Remington 40x bore clean on patches with the guide rod and integrated jag but there's still that darn carbon ring left. Any suggestions?

glp
05-10-2010, 09:46 AM
I've got an Ivy's cleaning rod with an integrated jag on it so I'm unable to put a brush on it to clean my Benchmark barrel with it. I've read that when using a brass brush, it's best to cycle the rod/brush all the way through the barrel to prevent any scratching when the bristles are 'turned' the other way mid-way through the stroke.

I can see a slight carbon ring and would like to remove it but short of buying another rod, could I simply take a nylon brush and short-stroke it back and forth right where the carbon ring is without worrying about damaging the barrel? I wouldn't be able to use a bore guide for this process but was hoping the collective could weigh in on the pros/cons of doing it this way. I have tried using Remington 40x bore clean on patches with the guide rod and integrated jag but there's still that darn carbon ring left. Any suggestions?

short stroking with a nylon brush and a patch charged with JB borepaste. If that fails try IOSSO paste. You may try just the brush if the brush and patch are too tight. That should remove it. Good luck.

Max Shaffer
05-10-2010, 09:47 AM
use a nylon brush if you can't use a brass one? You are using some kind of rod on the nylon brush, right? Guess I don't know what the Ivy rod guide is. You could probably use JB, Rem clean or Iosso on a patch over the nylon brush and short stroke that. That should do it. Max

abintx
05-10-2010, 10:39 AM
... there's still that darn carbon ring left. Any suggestions?

JB BORE CLEANING COMPOUND! 3 to 5 tight fitting patches with JB, stroked back and forth through the entire barrel but concentrating in the area with the ring, will do the trick. :)

bob finger
05-10-2010, 12:52 PM
Your barrel is worth what? $600 or more to replace? And you don't want to go to the nearest sporting goods store and buy a 12 inch long pistol rod for $10? Sounds like false economy to me. Go get a .22 pistol rod a few nylon brushes and a pointy tip jag that fit the rod and barrel.

Whenever you want to clean the chamber/leade wrap a patch that has just a wee bit of Iosso on it on the jag (JB also works but it is more aggressive than Iosso). Carefully push the patch in just far enough to do the chamber/leade and go 5 or 6 strokes, pull it out and turn the patch 90 degrees and do it again. Then use the nylon brush to scrub the chamber a few times. Now put your short rod away insert the bore guide and clean the barrel as you normally do. Some of us do this or a similar routine after every card, some less often. Your barrel will tell you how often you need to do it. bob

BrianJ
05-10-2010, 01:37 PM
Are you really seeing a ring of carbon or are you seeing the natural erosion ring from firing ahead of the chamber?

bjm

KEN HARPER
05-10-2010, 02:16 PM
By all means do not reverse directions of a bronze bore brush until you've cleared the bore. I've tried both JB paste and IOSSO paste which do work well but are rather messy to use. Another technique I've also used is to wrap a nylon brush with bronze wool which you can get from Brownell's, wet it with what ever cleaner you like and scrub with it. Placing it on a short pistol rod works well. It usually takes 5-6 strokes. My current method and personal favorite is using the VFG cleaning felts which are impregnated with bronze fibers. You have to buy the special Jag for use with these felts. Both of these items can be obtained from Brownells. 5-6 strokes and no more carbon ring.

frey
05-10-2010, 10:22 PM
I'm sure Denny can set you up with another rod or two.
They're works of art and a great investment.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o282/carolinafrey/rods.jpg

I also have a short stainless steel pro-shot rod for the chamber/leade area.

Locoweed
05-11-2010, 08:28 AM
There is an article in the December 2008 Precision Shooting which discusses scoping and cleaning rimfire bores. IIRC the author proposed using a small square of "lead-free cloth" to clean the ring. On another forum I recently saw someone mention using turpentine as well.

Joe Entrekin
05-11-2010, 08:49 AM
Best method I have found is a 6mm nylon brush on a short rod (mine is an 18" brass rod from Brownell's), short stroked with an incremental turn using Kroil. The Kroil will usually get the job done pretty quickly. If more aggressive cleaning is needed, use JB, IOSSO or Montana Extreme paste. I like the Montana Extreme because it comes in a syringe, but the others are just as good.

glp
05-11-2010, 11:22 AM
Best method I have found is a 6mm nylon brush on a short rod (mine is an 18" brass rod from Brownell's), short stroked with an incremental turn using Kroil. The Kroil will usually get the job done pretty quickly. If more aggressive cleaning is needed, use JB, IOSSO or Montana Extreme paste. I like the Montana Extreme because it comes in a syringe, but the others are just as good.

going to the Bud this year? --Greg

Kurly
05-12-2010, 10:54 AM
Thanks for the input fellas! I'm headed to Bass Pro Shops to get a nylon .22 brush and corresponding pistol brush. Given the fact I have a bore guide that was milled to the same spec as the Ivy rod, I'll be using it to short stroke the barrel and hope that doesn't cause any damage to it. Don't believe it should if I'm careful. I've got some Remington 40x bore cleaner that I'll use with some patches surrounding the brush and then follow-up with some Kroil. If this process doesn't sound exactly right with some of you gurus, I'd appreciate you letting me know. Again, thanks to all those who responded.

Kurly

Joe Entrekin
05-12-2010, 12:22 PM
There was a long thread on RimfireCentral about essentially this same topic. Look in the CZ forum for the thread about 1st shot, or cold barrel, fliers.