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02-22-2010, 09:06 PM
hey guy's new to this forum looks good so far.My question is what press and dies I need to purchase.I have been loading for years have mostly rcbs equip.and mostly for general hunting and shooting little holes in paper I am ready for next level in equipment to achive tighter groups I would like to start with press and dies as mine have seen lots of use.any suguestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks wayne.

Boyd Allen
02-22-2010, 09:26 PM
There is probably little to be gained, in the way of accuracy, by replacing the press. Dies and measuring tools are another matter. Typical, one piece, FL dies over size cases' necks, so that when the expander ball is pulled back through, there is so much pull on the case that it yields slightly at the shoulder, and since it does not do this evenly, necks are cocked. When bullets are seated in these cocked necks the result is crooked ammunition, to a degree that is detrimental to accuracy. Really good dies that do not excessively reduce the case's body diamater, and in the case of unturned necks, leave only a little work for the expander ball, are the key. This sort of FL die, combined with the best of seaters will result in the straightest ammunition. Beyond this using cases that are from the same lot, that have been fired and sized approximately the same number of times, and that have a minimum of body and neck thickness runout is a great help. Do you have a Sinclair International catalog? It is available online.

02-22-2010, 09:28 PM
For a discussion on presses that's been going on for a few days go here: http://www.benchrest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67718. I only use two dies for each caliber / cartridge. A Wilson seater with a micrometer top and a Full Length sizing die with bushings. In my humble opinion, I believe that's all you'll ever need. ;)

02-22-2010, 09:43 PM
yes I do have a sinclair catalog,just ordered new neck turner

02-22-2010, 09:58 PM
Bozo- unless you have a tight- neck chamber, it may be counter-productive to turn necks.

02-22-2010, 10:04 PM
Thanks I must have overlooked this one,@any rate all mt press questions were answered,I am going back and finish reading thread.
Thanks wayne.
P.S I am sure I will have more stupid questions on precision loading.

Boyd Allen
02-22-2010, 11:01 PM
None of your questions will be stupid. We all learned this stuff from someone. Besides, nothing is quite as much fun as discovering something that is new to you, that works better than what you were doing it before. Enjoy

02-23-2010, 01:04 AM
The best single piece of advice I can offer has already been mentioned but I believe it deserves some emphasis. Bushing dies are (IMO) the only way to go. Some reading:


Stephen Perry
02-23-2010, 01:52 AM
Check out the Redding dies. Your RCBS press is fine, no need to change.

Stephen Perry
Angeles BR

02-25-2010, 11:26 AM
Been reading the posts here the guys make good sense . Keep your press and put the money into a reliable scale and good no great dies. Oh what spare change you have should go into tools to check your ammo for precision .
The Rifler

03-06-2010, 07:30 AM
Thanks fellas,
I ordered several peices of equip from sinclair no new press,can't wait for hornady concentricity guage in order as well hope it does a good job?

Winchester 69
03-08-2010, 03:11 AM
Most prefer the Sinclair concentricity gauge.

Are you using the Rockchucker RCII press? Does it exhibit any wear?

03-09-2010, 10:33 AM
no it is the older JR press and it is tight,I have loaded thousand of rounds on it,I just want to go to the next level of accuracy and thought a new press might be in order.

03-09-2010, 10:58 AM
Invest in great dies and the three Bs: Bullets, Barrel, Bedding. You'll be ahead of the game.

Greg J.