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jazzy
07-11-2009, 06:40 PM
I have been wanting to try one of those green laser sights to assist setting up wind flags. It came in today and I hope it is gonna work out good. I have not done much with it yet as I seem to have the flu or sinus infection. It seems to be strong enough for the task at hand but is very hard to get pointed at the right spot. I think it will require mounting to a cheap scope to assist in putting it on the target.
If anyone has one of these I would like to hear any advice you may have for its use and maybe some pictures.

Thanks

wolf gray
07-11-2009, 07:25 PM
Jazzy,
I wouldn't take for mine. Bought mine off of a friend. It is my favorite Benchrest toy! It sure makes it easy to set flags. This one has a 3x9 scope on it to help line it up. It is mounted on a square piece of aluminum. If you will send me your email, I will take a few pictures of it and send them to you. I bugged Jerry Hensler all weekend at the Buffalo Shoot(Midland, Texas) a few years ago until he sold it to me, I think just to shut me up! :D

Best,

Dan Batko

"Where are we going and why am I in this basket?"

jazzy
07-12-2009, 06:26 AM
e-mail addy sent via private message here....

Pete Wass
07-12-2009, 03:36 PM
I have been wanting to try one of those green laser sights to assist setting up wind flags. It came in today and I hope it is gonna work out good. I have not done much with it yet as I seem to have the flu or sinus infection. It seems to be strong enough for the task at hand but is very hard to get pointed at the right spot. I think it will require mounting to a cheap scope to assist in putting it on the target.
If anyone has one of these I would like to hear any advice you may have for its use and maybe some pictures.

Thanks

hope no one gets a good shot of it in the eye while setting their flags!

JonathanK
07-12-2009, 07:17 PM
I wonder if one of these would be powerful enough to reach 2-300 yards in the daylight http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/lights/5a47/
http://www.z-bolt.com/z-bolt-plus-power-green-laser-pointer.html

jazzy
07-12-2009, 07:39 PM
This is the one i bought....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Green-laser-sight-532nm-high-power-with-attenucap_W0QQitemZ380138185439QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ LH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item58820062df&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I too hope no one looks into it at the range. It projects a very small beam so i think one would just about have to do it on purpose to get a blast in the eye.

RayfromTX
07-12-2009, 07:57 PM
No you will need at least 30 mw of power. I have one that is 100 mw that is much better and still a bit challenged at 200 in daylight. The dispersion is very important too if you don't want the "dot" to be 2 feet across at 200. A good one will be 4" or so at that distance. You pay for tighter. Heat dissipation is very important as well. A pen type is designed to be cycled on and off to avoid overheating. One minute on and one minute off is typical. Lab type lasers have large heat sinks and can run continuously. They are more appropriate for this use. A reasonable size can be purchased for around 100-200 dollars with about 85 mw of power. I think Dan's is 30 mw if I remember correctly. It struggles a bit in broad daylight.

There is a danger to unprotected eyes. Close up. 100 mw will cause permanent damage in a verrrry short period of time. My 100 mw green will make you move away if you point it at the back of your hand. My 200 mw red will burn black objects and will pop black balloons.

JonathanK
07-12-2009, 08:38 PM
So is there a number of Milliwatts that will work out to 200 yards, that is also safe?

jazzy
07-13-2009, 03:03 AM
According to the Phd at thier lab the one I purchased was tested by the Oklahoma Highway Patrol out to 700 yards in daylight conditions. The dot size is 14" @ 700 yrds, 5" @ 300 yrds, 3" @ 200 yrds and 1" @ 100 yrds.
Mine is 15-25 mw and come with a seperate atennucap to reduce it to 5 mw.

ray porter
07-13-2009, 08:09 AM
jazzy
i would really be interested in hearing how your green laser does in sunlight with the 5 mw attenuator on it. i am quite sure it will do fine with it off. a 5 mw red will not work past 50 yd in sunlight. if i wait till the sun goes down it will reach 200y easy. 5 mw is considered eye safe and has not damaged my eyes [ and i have had considerable testing to make sure i could not sue my employer over laser damage] dont take a chance with the 20 mw however.

Vibe
07-13-2009, 08:24 AM
Has anyone tried using one of those as a mirage indicator? Since the mirage "bends" the image of the target coming to the shooter it should also bend the laser going to the target making the image of the dot move on the target - giving the shooter some indication of where exactly he's seeing.

CubCouper
07-14-2009, 12:20 PM
I'm making (and selling) a delrin mount with a green laser and a rail for standard 1" or 30mm rings for a scope. All attached to a aluminum plate for a base. What I have found is that I can use the laser to set flags out to about 50 yards, then just line up on the flags beyond that. The beam basically disappears unless you look right into it (NOT recommended, but a momentary hit at 80-200 yards probably won't blind you). The 5mw green lasers work, but there is definitely a variation in quality and beam dispersion.

It is a blast to set your flags in the dark!!

Rod Brown

RayfromTX
07-17-2009, 08:43 PM
Jazzy-
I got mine from the same place but actually went to their shop, which is in an old condo complex. The phd is actually the owner. He tested mine before he sold it to me. I bought several from him. An 85 mwatt lab laser in green, a 100 mwatt green pen laser and a 200 mwatt red pen laser. They are lots of fun. They are stunning at night.

jazzy
07-17-2009, 09:24 PM
Well we tested it today and found it pretty much useless. At 100 yards the dot is about 4" and dim. We talked to a tech at the manufacturer and he said we could return it and he would send a higher power. We explained to him what we would use it for and he said 25 nw is not enough. I am ready to scrap the project but my shooting partner wants to keep going with it. If it can't be used safely I want no part of it.
However I would like to hear about others expiences with them.

AceBall
07-18-2009, 03:08 PM
Just a quick thought,,, How about using a small flashlight with an long extended small diameter tube such that a fellow can just bend down a look directly into little white light at the end of the tunnel. You can buy those open ended plastic clip style holders for quick mount onto the scope tube or barrel. Harmless enough, cheap, and simple.

Wilbur
07-18-2009, 06:09 PM
Has anyone tried using one of those as a mirage indicator? Since the mirage "bends" the image of the target coming to the shooter it should also bend the laser going to the target making the image of the dot move on the target - giving the shooter some indication of where exactly he's seeing.

Makes my head hurt to think about it but if it bent the same both ways all would be equal.

AJ300MAG
07-19-2009, 06:31 PM
Well we tested it today and found it pretty much useless. At 100 yards the dot is about 4" and dim. We talked to a tech at the manufacturer and he said we could return it and he would send a higher power. We explained to him what we would use it for and he said 25 nw is not enough. I am ready to scrap the project but my shooting partner wants to keep going with it. If it can't be used safely I want no part of it.
However I would like to hear about others expiences with them.

Here's a couple of photos of how I mounted a laser to my rifle.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AJ300MAG/Laser1.jpg

The mount is designed so that I don't have to remove the scope from the rifle to install the Laser. The Laser mount clamps to the scope dovetail on top of the action.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AJ300MAG/Laser2.jpg

While the beam of the laser is aprox. 4" diameter @ 100 yards I have the beam adjusted to the horizontal crosshair for a 6:00 hold, centered on the verticle. Isn't hard to center up the flag stand and then insure the vane on my windflag is just below the beam (flag closest to the target board). I can then the next flags off the beam, offset to the first flag using the laser beam. I set my flags early in the morning before the bright sun becomes an issue.

JJ-IA
07-19-2009, 11:37 PM
Just a quick thought,,, How about using a small flashlight with an long extended small diameter tube such that a fellow can just bend down a look directly into little white light at the end of the tunnel. You can buy those open ended plastic clip style holders for quick mount onto the scope tube or barrel. Harmless enough, cheap, and simple.

Yes that’s exactly the way to do it.
I was at a match were a child was pointing one of those >5mw unsafe illegal things at shooters between relays for giggles, and I find this thread appalling.

LesWard
07-19-2009, 11:46 PM
I used when I was varmit hunting at night. I got real tired of hunting for a coyote I shot for hours on end. Took a cheap scope and rigged up a fairly intense flash light. This set up was mounted on a small tripod
and once I made a kill, I would line up the scope on it, slip on the flash light lens, walk out & pick it up. Not an easy task hiking out a couple hundred yards on a no moon night.

It worked like a champ and you could actually see the crosshairs in the scope when you looked back as the cast a faint shadow across the country side.

Cant see why it wouldnt work setting up flags or whatever.

Sort of a transit in reverse. And it didnt cost much.

Aloha, Les

jazzy
07-20-2009, 02:30 AM
I do not understand why this entire thread would be appauling due to one childs misuse of equipment. The parents lack of supervision is what is appauling. Had the child been pointing a gun at everyone would every thread here be appauling? As for me I stated earlier I have no intention of using a laser if it can't be done safely. The set up I have tried has the laser mounted with a scope on a block of aluminum which is attacted to a tripod. The crosshairs of the scope are aligned with the target before the laser is ever turned on.
Thanks for bringing attention to the fact that childeren at matches need supervision.

Woody
07-20-2009, 06:57 AM
As for me I stated earlier I have no intention of using a laser if it can't be done safely.


Well that's good but in an earlier thread you mentioned, "I too hope no one looks into it at the range." That implies to me that others are responsible for their own safety around your laser and that ain't going to work - whoever turns it on is responsible. We've got enough hope floating around here now, I long for a return to the days of responsibility and accountability.

Have you been to a big match to set flags? There are people walking around everywhere down range - it's just a mass of humanity. How you would ensure that people know there is a potential laser in operation in front of your bench? Does the range operator now have to ensure no one is using anything over X mW? I'll bet they really aren't looking for anything else to do during match weekend.

I'm all for a way to speed up setting flags but I hope anyone contemplating the use of lasers thinks this through. Competitors have enough stuff to think about at a match without worrying about their eyesight while walking around downrange.

Vibe
07-20-2009, 08:13 AM
Makes my head hurt to think about it but if it bent the same both ways all would be equal.
Only if the target itself moved to stay aligned with the beam.

LesWard
07-20-2009, 10:58 AM
that the laser would need to be aimed at the target during the no mirage phase, then as the mirage develops note and mark the movement on target.

For what its worth I have spent years using lasers to set up swiming pools,building foundations, bridges, etc. Depending on the accuracy required, would determine what time of day we would shoot grades.

It was very common to find (1/2" @ 300') errors between morning shots & afternoon shots. (Surveyor Lingo)
If my post seems inappropriate feel free to disregard/scrub.

Aloha Les

zippy06
07-20-2009, 11:35 AM
I am thinking about this flag set up thing.
Getting the stuff together now.
I work with lasers at work. But, we weld sheet metal with ours.

I look all over Ebay. A little confusing.
So which laser is working?

JJ-IA
07-20-2009, 11:57 AM
I do not understand why this entire thread would be appauling due to one childs misuse of equipment. The parents lack of supervision is what is appauling. Had the child been pointing a gun at everyone would every thread here be appauling? As for me I stated earlier I have no intention of using a laser if it can't be done safely. The set up I have tried has the laser mounted with a scope on a block of aluminum which is attacted to a tripod. The crosshairs of the scope are aligned with the target before the laser is ever turned on.
Thanks for bringing attention to the fact that childeren at matches need supervision.

I don’t want to be a kill-joy or anything, but here it is in a nutshell.

How can you “safely” fire a high-power, non eye-safe laser into a crowd of people setting flags?
And who’s going to be the first to carry one down-range and sweep 30+mw through someone’s scope objective while they‘re looking through it setting flags the old way?
95+% light transmission into a <2mm exit pupil with someone’s eye behind it?
Yea I’m sure some people out there will decide OUR risk is worth THEIR reward…
Too bad WE are only legally allowed <5mW eye safe lasers for this type of use, and even pointing one of them at a pilot, or the aircraft he’s in will get you a trip to jail.
It isn’t just kids that need supervision, and yes I find it appalling that so many would put others at risk so casually.

Vibe
07-20-2009, 12:09 PM
that the laser would need to be aimed at the target during the no mirage phase, then as the mirage develops note and mark the movement on target.

For what its worth I have spent years using lasers to set up swiming pools,building foundations, bridges, etc. Depending on the accuracy required, would determine what time of day we would shoot grades.

It was very common to find (1/2" @ 300') errors between morning shots & afternoon shots. (Surveyor Lingo)
If my post seems inappropriate feel free to disregard/scrub.

Aloha Les
I find it very relevant to "this side" of the discussion.
Thank you.

Vibe
07-20-2009, 12:13 PM
I don’t want to be a kill-joy or anything, but here it is in a nutshell.

How can you “safely” fire a high-power, non eye-safe laser into a crowd of people setting flags?

What are you doing allowing a "crowd" of people into your firing lane while you are setting flags in it? A laser mounted on YOUR bench, aimed at YOUR target, should not affect them in any way shape or form.(I've seen no mention of aiming one the other direction). It might be a good idea for YOU to be wearing laser safe eye protection, but unless they are wandering through your firing lane for some reason they would remain unaffected. I suppose it might be polite to let them know this ahead of time though.

JJ-IA
07-20-2009, 01:01 PM
What are you doing allowing a "crowd" of people into your firing lane while you are setting flags in it? A laser mounted on YOUR bench, aimed at YOUR target, should not affect them in any way shape or form.(I've seen no mention of aiming one the other direction). It might be a good idea for YOU to be wearing laser safe eye protection, but unless they are wandering through your firing lane for some reason they would remain unaffected. I suppose it might be polite to let them know this ahead of time though.

How does anyone who’s walked downrange when a range was declared safe even reply to that?
Are you saying we cant trespass on someone else’s firing lane?
It’s very unfortunate that we have so many laws in this country (ones enforced by the police), but over the years I’ve come to understand why a good number of them exist.
No need an IBS, NBRSA or club rule change for this one, its already covered.

Vibe
07-20-2009, 01:13 PM
How does anyone who’s walked downrange when a range was declared safe even reply to that?.
Good question.


Are you saying we cant trespass on someone else’s firing lane?.
Not really. Though I am asking "Why would you want to?". You yourself used the term "trespass", an indicatition that it would be something one should NOT do anyway.

Jerry H
07-20-2009, 01:41 PM
Green lasers are the most effective way for settings flags quickly and precisely. A little common sense while they are in use may avoid any problems. A warning sign at the bench for the unaware would be a courteous thing to do. Also, staring at the sun is kind of dumb, so why would you stare into a laser. Even the lasers that can heat up a surface quickly, take a long time compared to an accidental glancing encounter. We are not talking about real cutting lasers here. The cheap high powered lasers are not the ones to use. These are the ones that advertise popping balloons and lighting matches at close range. They generally have poor divergence (beam spread). A green alignment laser(quite expensive) is much more suitable and as little as 40 mw is usable in bright daylight on a reflective surface, though more, is easier at 200 yards. The one I use is 80 mw and has a 1.5 inch visible corona (beam scatter) at 200 yards. At 12 inches, I cannot discern a rise in temperature on the palm of my hand with it as the beam is a couple of mm at the source already and as such, is not concentrated enough to burn something. People have been using these for years for more precise alignment of things and I have not heard of any eye damage with them. After using them for a couple of years, during my last eye exam I specifically asked for a check for any damage and there wasn't any. Green lasers are power rated quite differently than the traditional red type so you can't compare them in that regard anyway. There is a severe power loss in converting the light from red to green which is 5 times more visible to the eye. There are a few people using lasers at matches to set flags and the only complainer said he wished he had one. A few people look for any negativity in anything different than the norm. This is quite common in the benchrest community. The flag setting process would be a lot quicker if everyone had the use of one. Just a little care and awareness is all it takes for the use of this very effective tool. We are using much more dangerous things in our sport and have done very well over the years regarding injuries involving them by being careful and aware of our surroundings. If you decide to use one, make others aware of its use. Most don't stare at the sun and I don't think they will stare into a laser either, if they are aware of its presence.

JJ-IA
07-20-2009, 03:54 PM
Not really. Though I am asking "Why would you want to?". You yourself used the term "trespass", an indicatition that it would be something one should NOT do anyway.

Vibe,
Because I’m a helpful happy go lucky kind of guy that often walks across the range to help friends & fellow shooters position their flags. Then someone usually walks across the range to help me position mine (while I‘m looking through my scope to check the height). But from this thread on, I’m guessing they’ll just offer me the use of their high-powered laser. :D



There are a few people using lasers at matches to set flags and the only complainer said he wished he had one. A few people look for any negativity in anything different than the norm. This is quite common in the benchrest community.
<snip>

Just a little care and awareness is all it takes for the use of this very effective tool. We are using much more dangerous things in our sport and have done very well over the years regarding injuries involving them by being careful and aware of our surroundings. If you decide to use one, make others aware of its use. Most don't stare at the sun and I don't think they will stare into a laser either, if they are aware of its presence.


Jerry
That’s like saying its ok to walk around with a loaded rifle between relays, as long as your careful, just make sure everyone knows about it.

I think the have-nots and complainers are going to win this one.
The only question is how many partially blind people, from commercial-use-only, and illegal eBay lasers, it will take for it to happen.

Staring into the sun is a bad example. Because non-commercial lasers are deemed “eye safe” for consumer use only if they allow your auto-defense reflexes to close your eyelid and protect your vision before harm can be done. Nothing in that FCC law would keep some idiot from taping his eyelids open and looking at a “eye-safe” laser until they were permanently blind.

I’m out for now, this thread isn’t going to help me one little bit at a match this weekend, but sometimes things need said and I’m sure others agree with me. Even if they don’t want to risk taking a friends new toy away. ;)

jazzy
07-20-2009, 05:08 PM
The point I was trying to make earlier is that a person would have to almost delibrately look into the laser to get a blast. They would have to be in line with my flags, they would have to position thier eye in exact alignment with the paddle of my flag and they would have to be between me and my bench.
Remember also that the beam diameter at 100 yards is less than 2 inches.

Something else that my concern people are the use of ropes and twine stretch from bench to 100 yards times the number of benchs. Thats alot of tripping hazards.

jwa
07-20-2009, 10:20 PM
A couple years ago at St. Louis Benchrest club, Tom Rippee was using a laser to set flags and had rigged a remote control to turn it on and off. He would leave it off untill he was ready to place a flag, then turn it on long enough to locate his flag, then off untill the next one. This was at an ARA rimfire match but I think Tom shoots centerfire BR too.
Jerry

zippy06
07-20-2009, 11:46 PM
Vibe,
Because I’m a helpful happy go lucky kind of guy that often walks across the range to help friends & fellow shooters position their flags. Then someone usually walks across the range to help me position mine (while I‘m looking through my scope to check the height). But from this thread on, I’m guessing they’ll just offer me the use of their high-powered laser. :D





Jerry
That’s like saying its ok to walk around with a loaded rifle between relays, as long as your careful, just make sure everyone knows about it.

I think the have-nots and complainers are going to win this one.
The only question is how many partially blind people, from commercial-use-only, and illegal eBay lasers, it will take for it to happen.

Staring into the sun is a bad example. Because non-commercial lasers are deemed “eye safe” for consumer use only if they allow your auto-defense reflexes to close your eyelid and protect your vision before harm can be done. Nothing in that FCC law would keep some idiot from taping his eyelids open and looking at a “eye-safe” laser until they were permanently blind.

I’m out for now, this thread isn’t going to help me one little bit at a match this weekend, but sometimes things need said and I’m sure others agree with me. Even if they don’t want to risk taking a friends new toy away. ;)

JJ-ia.
You need some education on lasers.
I work with and repair 8000W CO2 lasers. We weld sheet metal. That is why gas mileage went up a few yrs ago. Cars and trucks are lighter. Not more fuel efficient. Big Defeatocrat lie.
Any safety glasses make you safe. With side Shields.
You are at a club on the firing line. You have to have safety glasses. You are now safe.
Prolonged looking at a green laser is going to be a problem. Maybe 5 min. worth.
The jerk in the parking lot is more dangerous.
After I buy one. I will email you the safety directions.

JJ-IA
07-21-2009, 02:41 PM
I'm sure I do and I could be wrong, my comments were from 10+ year old memory, back when I was looking for a long range laser rangefinder and found that 5mW was it.
So don’t count on my memory, go here and check it out for yourselves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_safety

The >5mW lasers talked about in this thread appear to fall under Class IIIb.
(even when some eBay clown intentionally breaks the law by putting a lower class sticker on them for the military(?), talk about red flags!)

Class IIIb
“Lasers in this class may cause damage if the beam enters the eye directly. This generally applies to lasers powered from 5–500 mW. Lasers in this category can cause permanent eye damage with exposures of 1/100th of a second or less depending on the strength of the laser.”

And:
“Eyewear must be selected for the specific type of laser, to block or attenuate in the appropriate wavelength range.”

And:
“A Class 2 laser is safe because the blink reflex will limit the exposure to no more than 0.25 seconds.”

But even the lowly Class 1 low power lasers have this warning:
“A Class 1M laser is safe for all conditions of use except when passed through magnifying optics such as microscopes and telescopes.”

<edit>
PS:
I hope you haven't been using clear OSHA safety glasses all those years when working on high powered lasers?

jazzy
07-21-2009, 06:58 PM
Again, the laser is set up at the bench close to the rifle it is never set up at the target and pointed back at the bench. So no chance of the laser beam going threw the scope and into someones eye. Yes these lasers have a pressure switch for turning them on/off for the few short seconds it takes to set a flag.

zippy06
07-21-2009, 10:06 PM
About the dumbest most inaccurate statement that I have ever read on this messageboard, by a professed expert.

Hi Don,
Which part don't you like????

zippy06
07-21-2009, 10:11 PM
About the dumbest most inaccurate statement that I have ever read on this messageboard, by a professed expert.

Gee Dan.
As far as the lasers go. If there was a problem. MI-OSHA would shut us down.
MI-OSHA Actually gave my company an award today. :D
And there might be 200 blind people doing their jobs. In an unsafe manner. They are blind. :eek:

As far as Safety glasses required at the firing line. All of the ranges I have been to require Safety glasses and hearing protection.

And I am not an expert. Never claimed to be. Just a maintenance guy.
By the way. No thanks to taking my words out of context.

Maybe we are mixing apples and oranges. People are using green lasers. And other types. The military is using them.
If there was a major problem. We would not be talking about them. We would have heard by now of someone being injured.
The green laser issue goes back to 4.13.07. Earliest post on here.
Of course, all safety precautions should be followed.

zippy06
07-21-2009, 10:26 PM
I'm sure I do and I could be wrong, my comments were from 10+ year old memory, back when I was looking for a long range laser rangefinder and found that 5mW was it.
So don’t count on my memory, go here and check it out for yourselves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_safety

The >5mW lasers talked about in this thread appear to fall under Class IIIb.
(even when some eBay clown intentionally breaks the law by putting a lower class sticker on them for the military(?), talk about red flags!)

Class IIIb
“Lasers in this class may cause damage if the beam enters the eye directly. This generally applies to lasers powered from 5–500 mW. Lasers in this category can cause permanent eye damage with exposures of 1/100th of a second or less depending on the strength of the laser.”

And:
“Eyewear must be selected for the specific type of laser, to block or attenuate in the appropriate wavelength range.”

And:
“A Class 2 laser is safe because the blink reflex will limit the exposure to no more than 0.25 seconds.”

But even the lowly Class 1 low power lasers have this warning:
“A Class 1M laser is safe for all conditions of use except when passed through magnifying optics such as microscopes and telescopes.”

<edit>
PS:
I hope you haven't been using clear OSHA safety glasses all those years when working on high powered lasers?

Yep. Been there 9 yrs. Standard S&W safety glasses. Now prescription for "the over 40 thing".
Only one accident. Operator was swinging from the beam tube. Tube fell out of bracket. The same operator had disabled the safety switch. Burned his fingers. They looked like burned hot dogs. They healed without a scar.

zippy06
07-21-2009, 10:30 PM
More info. When welding with a laser. And adding Helium, argon, and nitrogen.
You make a plasma puddle. To look at this, a welding shield #10 lens, is required.

jazzy
08-01-2009, 08:06 PM
bump .... would like to here more on this one.

zippy06
08-02-2009, 08:16 PM
Bump. YEAAAA!!!!
Who sells/makes the best laser for setting flags??????

Woody
08-02-2009, 08:49 PM
Bump. YEAAAA!!!!
Who sells/makes the best laser for setting flags??????

Boeing makes one you'll like: http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123154924

With this baby, you won't have to worry about competitive benchrest shooters whining about their eyesight, they'll just vaporize if they walk in front of your bench....

zippy06
08-02-2009, 09:57 PM
Woody almost.
Quote: During the test, the specially modified 46th Test Wing NC-130H aircraft equipped with the ATL weapon system took off from Kirtland and fired its laser while flying over White Sands Missile Range, N.M., successfully hitting a target board located on the ground. ATL is equipped with a chemical laser, a beam control system, sensors and weapon-system consoles.

I work with 8K CO2 lasers. For sheet metal welding. Cars mostly.
It will burn your fingers like a hot dog. No eye injuries. :eek:

"I will burn you to the ground". Not even close. That was from Star Trek. A Capt. someone???? :eek:

That NC-130H, would need, a 480VAC 200 amp continuous power supply. :D

jazzy
08-06-2009, 04:33 PM
I will try to attach a couple of pictures of our set up. However we have not had much success with it. I have sent a e-mail to the owner of the company that makes them and he is supose to be working on our delima.

jazzy
08-08-2009, 06:46 PM
A couple of more pics......

jazzy
08-08-2009, 09:05 PM
Yes they are just set up for demo. I also tried a piece of white coroplast and it seems the green dot shows up on it much better. So I may have to make a white coroplast bonnet for the top while setting them out.