View Full Version : A little advise needed.

05-07-2009, 09:28 PM
Hello All,

I am a new member to this forum and a new sport shooter. One of my buddies invited me to shoot .22 BR with him and now im hooked.

We shoot "Barnyard": @ 50yrds
>American Made Gun
>American Made Ammo less than $5.00/50
>Gun must bluebook under $500 at 90%
>6.5max power scope
>2pc rests only! no solid rests

I won a Remington 597 TVP last fall and decided this would be a good opportunity to put it to the test. But, the test seems to be failing horribly. I know im not the most accurate of a shot but ive never had a problem like this with any other .22.

This is my set up.

Remington 597 TVP
Nikon Prostaff 3-9 x 40
Calwell Rock BR Front Rest
Bag Rear Rest

Several Ammo types including:

Federal Spitfire
CCI Velocitor
Federal Gold Medal 711B
Winchester T22 **best 5 shot groups at about 1.5" @ 25yrds. :(

Im not sure if this is a problem with me or a problem with the gun.

Im shooting this to have fun with the guys, but i want to be a little competetive too. I shot a 42 and 38 last weekend, after my scope mounts loosened up to nearly falling off without me noticing. But that is no excuse. I went out tonight and had the same results.

Im just looking for someone to point me in the right direction.

Thanks Everyone for your Knowledge


05-07-2009, 10:22 PM
Derek, a semi-auto is going to have difficulty keeping up with bolt guns. I know a lot of guys have sunk money into semi-autos to get them to shoot good, and they do shoot good, but not generally to the standards of a bolt. I would recommend getting a Savage MKI or a CZ as a beginner bench gun. If you want to compete with the big guys, you will need to spend a lot of money and time, but if you just want to shoot a little better and have fun, try one of my options.
Good Luck and have fun

05-08-2009, 04:45 AM
yep get yourself a good bolt gun.


05-08-2009, 06:11 AM
MRistry welcome to Benchrest Central. You need some decent test Ammo even if it is just a bit over $5 box. The best for me is Wolf Match Target when it is available. It was $4.50 a box last go around, no telling how much when it is available again.

It is possible if the gun is ok to do nothing but switch ammo and shoot 5 shot groups @ 25yds where they almost all touch. Rimfire to me is about 50% gun and 50% ammo. You need some good ammo to establish a base line. Once you know where your gun shoots you can try some of the cheeper ammo.

I don't know how good you how cleaned your barrel -you didn't say if the gun was new or used but if it was used -you could have some work ahead of you. You very well could have a lead/carbon build-up in the first inch of your barrel, fairly common with rimfires if your slacking on bbl cleanup every now and them.

Get a nice bronze brush and a bore cleaner and go to scrubbing. Patch dry and repeat several times. Without a bore scope your running blind here so "over do" the cleaning.

When your done dry patch the barrel and have another test session. After you know the bbl is clean and you have tried some know good grouping ammo, your still at 1 1/2". You will be at your limit, any farther improvements, your money would better be spent on a another rifle.

The best rifle for a "Plinker" in my view is a semi auto Ruger 10/22. If you like to tinker, you can totally dismantle and remove the barrel with a screw driver and an allen wrench. There are tons of aftermarket parts and mods you can do yourself and it's easy to do. A stock one should shoot 1/2" @ 25 yards. With a $100 Green Mountain aftermarket bbl you can shoot under 1/4" groups @ 25 yards in a hurricane! Rimfire is a great hobby, have fun! joe:)

05-11-2009, 06:12 AM
Hey Derek,

I am glad that you had fun! If you want to try your 597 some more, I would do like these guys said. Give the barrel a good cleaning to make sure you have all the lead out. You can actually take the barrel off that one without too much trouble so you can clean it from the breech. If you want. I don't think it would be a good regular practice, but for this time it might not be bad. This way you can also see down the bore from the chamber end a lot better. If you have a big lead build up, you will be able to see it pretty easy.

If you want to switch up guns, I would look at the Savage Mk II FV for a new gun. Another good choice it a Remington 580/581, or a 541T. A little tougher finding them.

Let me know if you have any questions.