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kdw52
12-04-2008, 10:25 PM
Anybody have an annie 2013 they want to part with, or any parts to start building a 2013 benchrest?

bigredplane
12-05-2008, 03:34 AM
Look here is a used one

http://www.championshooters.com/index-ssl.html

Brian_K
12-05-2008, 05:24 AM
If you get one, try bedding it like this:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/argoncorp/IMG_0014.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/argoncorp/IMG_0015.jpg

Drilled & tapped an extra two holes in the action and placed a gasket between the action and 10mm bedding plate. Glued the plate in the stock.

It's a new rifle with a 500mm Anschutz barrel and although it's only had 500 rounds through it, it's starting to shoot very well.

Almost finished, now waiting for a Shilen barrel from Bill Myers to arrive.:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/argoncorp/Rifle2.jpg

tim
12-05-2008, 06:16 PM
What's the gasket made out of?

Brian_K
12-05-2008, 09:29 PM
What's the gasket made out of?

Not sure of the exact material, I spoke to a gasket supply company, told them what I wanted it for and bought what they recommended. It's basically a 0.75mm thick steam gasket. Seems to do a very good job of killing the vibration. - Brian

Jefferson
12-06-2008, 09:21 AM
why dont you get a few made up for sale, cheaper for me to buy one off of you than get a machinist to figure out how to do it.


Jeff

Brian_K
12-06-2008, 10:14 AM
why dont you get a few made up for sale, cheaper for me to buy one off of you than get a machinist to figure out how to do it.
Jeff

The plate was made 139mm long x 32mm wide x 10mm thick.

Yeh, I suppose I could make up the plates, complete with gasket and screws. Not sure what the cost would be $75??? + shipping

If you are going to go for the six screws, you will need to have the holes drilled and tapped in the action locally. This is really a machine shop job as the anodising and alloy Anschutz use for the action are extremely hard/easily work harden.

Jefferson
12-21-2008, 09:30 PM
do I get it UNINLETTED and then just mill out the rectangular hole for the bedding block,

and secondly if I keep the 4 holes then just screws into the aciton,

and thirdly, what are the screw length and sizes for the bedding block

thanks jeff

Brian_K
12-22-2008, 03:39 AM
do I get it UNINLETTED and then just mill out the rectangular hole for the bedding block,

and secondly if I keep the 4 holes then just screws into the aciton,

and thirdly, what are the screw length and sizes for the bedding block

thanks jeff

Hi Jeff,

Yes, I had a blank stock which I put a 1" barrel channel in and inletted as shown:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/argoncorp/inletting.jpg

Place the aluminium bedding block in the inlet and drill 6 (or 4) 5mm holes through the stock. Remove plate, and then open these out to 10mm.

Fit the plate and gasket to the barrel/action using 5 x 14mm cap head screws then put plasticine over the heads and glue the action into the stock using the normal free floating bedding method you would with any rifle. When the glue is set you can remove the plasticine from the underside of the stock, should look like this:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/argoncorp/ActionScrews.jpg

So far the rifle is shooting pretty well. Last Monday a Shilen reverse cone barrel arrived from Bill Myers (thanks Bill). I set the headspace to .043", grabbed a box of Eley Team and went to the local 25m indoor range just to make sure it would shoot and extract OK. Shot this target with the cheap ammo and no tuner.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c24/argoncorp/group.jpg

Butch Lambert
12-22-2008, 08:09 AM
I hope that my Shilen is that good.
Butch

tim
12-22-2008, 09:07 PM
Assuming your gasket is there to buffer any minor variences in the action bottom after bbl tightening why not just skip the block and put the gasket on a thick bedding coat?

John Kielly
12-22-2008, 09:59 PM
That's not necessarily the reason. Here in Australia, ISSF shooters regularly fit gaskets to their flat bottom Annies. It seems that there can be a vibration issue with the hard/hard contact that can be cleared up with a flexible gasket.

Brian_K
12-23-2008, 03:16 AM
That's not necessarily the reason. Here in Australia, ISSF shooters regularly fit gaskets to their flat bottom Annies. It seems that there can be a vibration issue with the hard/hard contact that can be cleared up with a flexible gasket.

Yep, that's why I've used the gasket. It's not flexible, but quite hard and made of some fibrous material. I got the idea from a Unique Alpine I have and after emailing the factory they were kind enough to give me the information.

tim
12-23-2008, 04:33 PM
That's not necessarily the reason. Here in Australia, ISSF shooters regularly fit gaskets to their flat bottom Annies. It seems that there can be a vibration issue with the hard/hard contact that can be cleared up with a flexible gasket.

Was not my question. Why not just put the gasket between the action and a thick heavy layer of bedding?

Brian_K
12-23-2008, 06:00 PM
Was not my question. Why not just put the gasket between the action and a thick heavy layer of bedding?

I figured you cannot have just a thick bedding layer on its own, which is why pillars are normally installed.

I did consider going down this route, of making some aluminium pillars, in this case six, and bedding the action with Devcon, in which case it would not need a gasket, i.e. it would be a normal bedded action.

So far Iím pretty pleased with the plate/gasket bedding. The groups the rifle are shooting are near enough round, which indicates to me that there is no problem with the bedding. Now we just need to try some ammo selection, barrel indexing, tuner setting, action and barrel screw adjustments and we might be getting close.:D

Did I mention Iím considering stiffening the original Anschutz barrel with carbon fiber? ;)