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tate
11-08-2008, 11:23 AM
Hello everyone. Im looking for some rules for f class but i havent realy had no luck,but knowing me im just looking in the wrong place. Had one guy tell me that he didnt think that i would be able to us the rifle that im having built,but maybe you can set me straight on it. What im planning on using is a 30-378 weatherby with a 30 inch hart,mcmillan A5 stock,an a 12x42x56 nightforce np-2dd scope. I was told that you could not us anything over a 308, well does that mean bullet diameter or a 308 winchester or was this fellow just full of you know what. Well thanks for your help.

MikeShap
11-08-2008, 11:51 AM
here's a link,http://org/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-index.pdf[/URL]

LarryBartholome
11-08-2008, 02:10 PM
Tate,
To some degree it depends on what class you intend to shoot in. There are two, F-Open and F/TR in the US NRA rules. http://www.nrahq.org/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-w22.pdf

Section 22, rule 3.4 (b)
F-Class Target Rifle (F-TR) - A rifle restricted to the chambers of unmodified .308 Winchester/7.62mm NATO or unmodified .223 Remington/5.56mm X 45 NATO cartridge cases. The rifle must be fired off a bipod, rigidly attached to the rifle’s for-end, and/or a sling. Any bipod, meeting the definition of a bipod, may be used but its weight must be included in the rifle’s overall weight. Any safe, manually operated trigger is permitted. Any sighting system is permitted, but it must be included in the rifle’s overall weight.
The provisions of Rules 3.16 and 3.16.1 apply to this definition.
(1) The rifle’s overall weight, including all attachments such as sights, sling and bipod, must not exceed 8.25 kilograms (approximately 18.18 pounds. An “attachment” also includes any external object, other than the competitor and apparel, which recoils or partially recoils with the rifle, or which is clamped, held, or joined in any way to the rifle for each shot, or which even slightly raises with the lifting of the rifle from its rest/firing point.
(2) The rifle must be fired in the prone position from the shoulder of the competitor using rifle as defined in 3.4.1(b).

(a) F-Class Open Rifle (F-0) - A rifle restricted to a bore diameter no larger than .35 caliber. (Attention is directed to safety fan limitations of various ranges. Individual ranges may further restrict ammunition), “Rail guns” and positive mechanical methods of returning to the precise point of aim for the prior shot are not permitted. Any safe, manually operated trigger is permitted. Any sighting system is permitted, but it must be included in the rifle’s overall weight.
The provisions of Rules 3.16 and 3.16.1 apply to this definition.
(1) The rifle’s overall weight, including all attachments such as sights and bipod, must not exceed 10 kilograms (approximately 22 pounds). An “attachment” also includes any external object, other that the competitor and apparel, which recoils or partially recoils with the rifle, or which is clamped, held, or joined in any way to the rifle for each shot, or which even slightly raises with the firing of the rifle from the rests).
(2) The width of the rifle’s forend shall not exceed 76mm (approximately 3 inches).
(3) The rifle must be fired in the prone position from the shoulder of the competitor using rifle rests as defined in Rule 3.4.1(a).
Under American F-Class Open rules

If you are planning on building a new rifle I would advise you to attend a good size F-Class match before you spend your money. Even if you are going to shoot in the Open class I think you are making a big mistake. You are most likely going to shoot 50-80 shots from a prone position over the course of a days shooting and the recoil even from a 22 lb rifle will lead to problems. Decreased accuracy from fouling may also become a problem as the day progresses. I have seen a few people shot well on occasion using 300 WSM’s but even that is too big for most. If you decide to shoot a 30-378 Wby buy extra barrels, you are going to need them.
P.S. The U.S. F-Class Open Team shoots 6.5-284 for the reasons stated.

AJ300MAG
11-08-2008, 03:58 PM
30-378, 22 rounds down the tube in 20 minutes....................................:eek:

I can smell the bedding cookin from here.:D

milanuk
11-09-2008, 06:29 AM
...70 plus rds in a day from that cannon, my shoulder hurts from here ;)

JeffVN
11-09-2008, 07:08 AM
Yep and when you add in the fact that there are no muzzle breaks allowed, you find a wall at about teh 300WSM or, in my case, 7WSM that is about as much recoil as most folks can handle in any given 75-80 round day from a 22+ lb rifle (11 Kilos) .

JeffVN

JeffVN
11-09-2008, 07:13 AM
Larry

Rules question. We had an event at a match involving a rifle malfunction where the competitor scamped off to his vehicle and swapped out a rifle with a different rifle during the relay, and was still able to get all the necessary rounds during the allotted time frame (because of spectacular pit service by me :) ).

Is a competitor allowed to do this, or must the competitor finish the relay with teh same rifle that they started the relay? I looked brefely at the rules and was unable to resolve the question to my liking.

JeffVN

LarryBartholome
11-09-2008, 08:08 AM
Jeff,

The below quote applies only for F-Class, see Section 9 in rule book for the OTC and L-R prone rule.

From NRA High Power Rifle Rule book, revised July 1, 2008 – Section 22 for F-Class

9.1 Changing Rifle - A competitor may change rifles to another of the same or different caliber only between fired matches or between stages of a multiple stage match even if these stages are included in an aggregate match. A competitor may not change his or her rifle during the firing of a single stage unless it has become disabled and has been so designated by the Chief Range Officer. For the purpose of this rule, the firing of a stage is considered to have started when the competitor has fired his or her first record shot. A claim that a rifle is disabled must be made immediately. All shots fired up to the time that the claim is made will stand as part of the
official score. (See Ruled 10.9 and 10.10.)

tate
11-09-2008, 01:49 PM
Thanks for the imput guys it realy helped.I dont know if what they shoot at the range is truely f class or not im just gueesing about it,it is just guys with tactical style rifles shooting 5 shot groups at either 300 an 600. Tried calling the range but its closed for the year,but o well if i cant shoot it there i'll have one hell of a hunting rifle to sit with.

JeffVN
11-09-2008, 04:56 PM
Larry

thanks for the fast response and help. I was in the pits and didnt see the event unravel but apparently the rifle was declared disabled, the shooter was shooting F-Class Open, ran to his car to retreive a second rifle, and the rounds shot from the first rifle were counted as part of the overall relay and aggregate score.

JeffVN