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garrisone
10-15-2008, 10:05 AM
What is necessary to remove a barrel that is glued in to the action? What are things to look for to keep from messing up the barrel? Thanks for any help.garrisone.

Tenspot
10-15-2008, 10:31 AM
What is necessary to remove a barrel that is glued in to the action? What are things to look for to keep from messing up the barrel? Thanks for any help.garrisone.

I'd like to add, how advantageous is gluneing in a barrel? It seems to me there might be some inherent advantages.????

steve
10-15-2008, 11:33 AM
Action glued into the stock?

garrisone
10-15-2008, 11:36 AM
Action glued into the stock?

NO.Just the barrel into the action.

lead head
10-15-2008, 01:35 PM
There is and industrial type loctite that has to be heated to above 450F before it turns loose. I believe it is green in color. By the way what type action are you working with?

Tenspot
10-15-2008, 01:41 PM
Action glued into the stock?

Border barrels actually recommends it, barrel glued into the action that is.

tim
10-15-2008, 08:35 PM
Border barrels actually recommends it, barrel glued into the action that is.

Or you could just fit it properly.

Tenspot
10-16-2008, 08:59 AM
Or you could just fit it properly.

Expand, share your knowledge please.

cdupuy
10-16-2008, 09:03 AM
The removal (one) might be to rap the receiver smartly to unseat the glue?
however I will have to side with tim on doing it the proper way, fit the barrell to the action ream for oversize pins and install.
The problem I see as a potential for the glue is to become unbonded and rattle, then what?

Clarence

tim
10-16-2008, 05:02 PM
Expand, share your knowledge please.

I'm assuming that you're reffering to all the Border info on the fitting to an Anschutz action. There is a reason that the OEM ones need to be heated and driven-pressed out, which is the same reason the smiths that chose not to thread them but press a new match bbl back on..... they fit properly that way. Yes there are many that thread them for the Annie but a., it's not as easy as it sounds and b., more than you'd guess get screwed up that way.

Picher
10-17-2008, 05:41 AM
I've installed and removed several barrels with High Strength Loctite. It works amazingly well.

To remove it, just heat the action with an electric heat gun or very carefully with a torch. The barrel joint will start smoking, then release...long before the temperature where any damage is done to either the barrel or receiver. The metal is never heated to a red color; but remains normal.

I recommend that the heating be done in a well-ventilated area due to the toxic epoxy smoke.

After removal, just let the parts air-cool.

Picher

garrisone
10-17-2008, 08:38 AM
I've installed and removed several barrels with High Strength Loctite. It works amazingly well.

To remove it, just heat the action with an electric heat gun or very carefully with a torch. The barrel joint will start smoking, then release...long before the temperature where any damage is done to either the barrel or receiver. The metal is never heated to a red color; but remains normal.

I recommend that the heating be done in a well-ventilated area due to the toxic epoxy smoke.

After removal, just let the parts air-cool.

Picherpitcher: thank you for the help. garrisone.

Tenspot
10-17-2008, 09:39 AM
pitcher: thank you for the help. garrisone.



Garrisone, if it does not come out easy, you can insert an aluminum or brass rod from the back and drive it out while hot.

KEN HARPER
10-17-2008, 09:55 AM
My gunsmith places a hot iron on the barrel/action for several minutes then taps on it to release it. Seems to work well for him.

garrisone
10-17-2008, 03:36 PM
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My gunsmith places a hot iron on the barrel/action for several minutes then taps on it to release it. Seems to work well for him.

A BIG THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED ME WITH THIS PROBLEM.garrisone

BrianJ
10-17-2008, 06:51 PM
Tim,

You are absolutly, 100% correct. I feel as you do and I have a personal horror story with one of the countries best SB smiths of the time to prove it. You are correct in threading is not an easy job, and they do get screwed up.

You are also correct in fit it right. Glue may work but the one size fits all and the glue says so is certainly not the way to go about the process.

In all fairness I must note, that on the other hand Karl Kenyon used to insist on threading and his track record is above all others.

bjm