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Matt in Va
06-30-2008, 12:33 AM
Gentlemen,
I bought a few Annies last year before the price increase. One is a particularly beautiful 1913(?) advertised by CSS as Anschutz 54 Action Bench Rest Walnut NOW selling at $2450. I received the rifle last year, marveled at the stock figure and put it in the safe. Fast forward to late May. I mounted a NIB Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x40 EFR Matte Fine Duplex in Talley Anschutz High Rings. The rifle is a beauty to behold and the trigger is the finest I have ever pressed, however, the rifle is not shooting up to par off the bench. Out of everything I have shot through it the best performer has been older SK Match. That said it will put three, and sometimes four, shot through the same hole and throw the last one. OR it will shoot two groups. Two bug holes side by side. To be quite honest I'm a little disappointed with the rifle, however, I don't feel that the few outings we've had are a fair opportunity for the rifle to shine... That said I'm looking at a $2600 rimfire that won't bughole and could really use some input...

Feel free to give me a call...

Best Regards, Matt Garrett
757-581-6270

Btw, It has been suggested that I bed the stock, however, I'd prefer to pay a specialist if that is a necessity. I would hate to do anything short of the best work available on this stock...

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Matt in Va
06-30-2008, 12:35 AM
Gentlemen,
I should note I am not benchrest competitor in either centerfire or rimfire nor do I have aspirations to that end. I am just a plinker who admires an accurate rifle...

Regards, Matt.

Brian_K
06-30-2008, 04:32 AM
To be quite honest I'm a little disappointed with the rifle, however, I don't feel that the few outings we've had are a fair opportunity for the rifle to shine... That said I'm looking at a $2600 rimfire that won't bughole and could really use some input...

Matt, if it was that easy (to buy a factory rifle that shot bug holes straight from the box) a few gunsmiths would be out of business.

I have the same setup as you. The Anschutz 1913/BR50 is a great factory rifle, but it is still a factory rifle. Annies need a little time to condition the barrel, I reckon around 2 to 3 thousand rounds and you should see her starting to group a little better. It really depends on how accurate you want the rifle to be and how much money you want to spend.

First steps would be to have the action bedded, torque the action screws up to 5Nm (you can play around with this later), batch test as much ammo as you can and find what it shoots best (Eley Match is a good starting point). Adjust the trigger to 50grams and adjust the trigger sear to your liking.

Now you will have a rifle that shoots a little more accurately and a lot more consistently. To go from here costs dollars - tuners, tuner weights, match barrel etc.

Its how fast do you want to go - speed costs money.

How this helps to point you in the right direction.

Brian

TangoTwo
06-30-2008, 05:28 AM
Are you shooting over flags? If not, the rifle is probably OK. The wind/air currents are always moving, even in a "dead calm". The wind will also be blowing in different directions between you and the target. Bedding sure won't hurt.

Ken

rbs
06-30-2008, 07:18 AM
That is a beautiful stock. If you demand the best bedding job send it to Alex Sitman, there is no better than him. http://www.masterclassstocks.com/

lead head
06-30-2008, 08:34 AM
You might try torquing the action screws to Anschutz specs starting with the screw in front of the trigger.
I have a 1907 factory br model that you have to shoot several times before it will put them in the same hole. I'm using SK MATCH ammo. I have a friend that shoots SK SUBSONIC with lots of luck. His rifle holds our range record of 2450 on an ARA match target.
Larry

Matt in Va
06-30-2008, 08:20 PM
Gentlemen,
Thank you for the input. The barreled action is going to Mr. Sitman after the 4th. Thank you for your help...

Regards, Matt Garrett.
757-581-6270

Rod Collins
06-30-2008, 08:41 PM
You should send the stock and the barreled action.

xxgrampa
07-01-2008, 02:37 AM
hi ho matt,

a rifle that shoots two groups is usually loose or improperly tightened sights
when you torqued the rings and bases, did you tighten them in sequece and evenly a little at a time???

before you send the gun off for bedding check out the scope. something could be loose inside. even leupold can make a mistake..:rolleyes::rolleyes:

if you have or can borrow another scope, switch it off and see if it improves..

improper bedding doesn't usually two group. howsome ever, improper tightening of the action screws mite..

good luck and ..ttfn..grampa..

PS.. try shimming the action

inspireart
07-01-2008, 09:53 AM
I have a friend that has spent a ton of time and money trying to get a Walther to shoot. Sorry Terry!

After bedding, a different stock and bedding again, a different scope and mount. Same result.

He is now convinced it is the barrelled action.

Alex Sitman does excellent work however, if you still want to go that way.

I have had excellent results from Tom Meredith at TM Stockworks.

Matt in Va
07-01-2008, 10:49 AM
Mr. Collins,
I'm up to speed on that. I was actually thinking about sending the barreled action out for testing, per a conversation with inspireart, and had barreled action on the brain. Thank you for the note...

xxgrampa,
I'm a Schmidt Bender & Accuracy International Dealer and mount scopes on a weekly basis. I could be wrong, however, I'd put money on it that the mounting is right...

What I'm not 100% certain of is the scope. It is brand new and unknown quantity...

inspireart,
I'm thinking very seriously of sending the barreled action to off to Mr. Hongisto. I doubt I could wrong with either TM or Masterclass. Thank you for the input AND your time last night...

Gentlemen,
Just as a side note I really do appreciate the benefit of your experience. I've been in other parts of the industry for awhile, however, the BR Rimfire scene is quite new to me... Thank you.

Regards, Matt Garrett.
757-581-6270