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Mike A
02-21-2008, 03:47 PM
Has anyone had any email from Bruce lately?, my last couple of emails to him dont seem to have got through.

vinny
02-21-2008, 03:57 PM
Try this.
baercustomrifles@embarqmail.com
Vinny

Mike A
02-21-2008, 04:34 PM
Thanks, Vinny

Spencer2928
02-21-2008, 09:39 PM
I have tried that email and have had no luck. I tried calling Bruce today and got his voice mail.

vinny
02-22-2008, 12:08 AM
Spence
I spoke to Bruce moments before my response to Mike A and that's the email he gave me. I just sent him one using that address and it apparently went through. Try it again.
Vinny

8696steve
03-11-2010, 02:55 PM
I know this thread is old, but I am having the same problem.
I paid for a stock in October 2009, I still have not received the correct stock from them. I have made at least 100 phone calls and and emails to them. I have never received any response from them. Only a friend of mine who lives there has been able to get in touch with them on various occasions.
What are your opinions?

Wetz
03-11-2010, 04:57 PM
I talked to him two weeks ago. It took him three weeks to get back to me. He said he fell on the ice and broke his ankle.

BountyHunter
03-11-2010, 06:48 PM
Talked with him yesterday afternoon. Woke him up from his siesta.

He is normally asleep right underneath his phone. You have to holler and wake him up and wait for him to pick up. :D

BH

8696steve
03-16-2010, 08:03 PM
Well he finally contacted me after 5 months. He was not a very nice person. I will never do any business with him again. Still awaiting stock.

vinny
03-16-2010, 08:16 PM
Well he finally contacted me after 5 months. He was not a very nice person. I will never do any business with him again. Still awaiting stock.

That doesn't sound like a behavior typical of Bruce. Most smiths have a waiting list, some up to 1 year or more. I've learned when dealing with the gentlemen in this industry your best virtue had better be patience.
vinny

8696steve
03-16-2010, 08:21 PM
The stock was promised within 1 month as I had also purchased a rifle.

jghoghunter
03-16-2010, 10:04 PM
Goodluck 8696 your not the only one that has the same story about this man.

Nodak7mm
03-16-2010, 11:47 PM
I am with Vinnie. I dont know Bruce personally, but I do have a friend who considers Bruce a close friend & from what I know of him (Bruce), it does not sound like the Bruce Baer I have heard about.

Getting a custom stock made, is a long drawn out process and they are well worth the wait. I would figure a wait time of 6-8-10 months should be expected from a well known/in demand Smith such as Baer to be prob average. Like Vinnie said, patience is a virtue.. :cool:

Rod..

Jeff in OH
03-21-2010, 10:46 AM
Bruce does not actually make his own stocks (or rests), his wife runs the duplicator. If you are just looking for a blank, she would make it. If you need it inletted, then Bruce would need to set it up on the mill for the inlet. Get in line, it is a FIFO if all the parts are there.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, I too have chosen to use another gunsmith after having Bruce build two 1000 yard guns for me. Let's just say that when you barter services outside of standard cash transactions, get it in writing. I wish no ill will towards Bruce, and hope he's back in the shop soon.

BountyHunter
03-21-2010, 05:55 PM
Let's just say that when you barter services outside of standard cash transactions, get it in writing. I wish no ill will towards Bruce, and hope he's back in the shop soon.

Pretty sure that can be said for both sides and good practice!

BH

eitmsmf
03-21-2010, 06:51 PM
Hate to say it but I was also told the "1 month" deal. I would have lost my deposit if a buddy that had a stock done wouldn't have pushed the issue for his payment. I am local to Bruce and have heard countless similar stories. Sorry for the negative post but this is first hand experiance not someone else's story.

Jeff in OH
03-21-2010, 08:17 PM
Pretty sure that can be said for both sides and good practice!

BH

Yeah, very true. I have e-mails that prove that what I "thought" was the deal was agreed to, otherwise the e-mails would not have been sent to me. Then, once my end of the deal was complete, it changed back to what was easiest for "the other party" in the barter. It is water long past under the bridge at this point.

Funny thing though, I performed the same service for another gunsmith under the "gentleman's word and a handshake" and it worked out just great. I know beyond what I had hoped it would be, and I will continue to work until exceeding his expectations also.

MOTORSPORTS55
03-26-2010, 08:26 AM
Bruce is a hell of a guy and never did me wrong !! If you were ever at his shop he is a 1 man show and if he answered his phone ever time it rang he would not get anything done !! To be there and listen to his answering machine most of his call are people that want him to answer little b.s. Questions all day so i can see it on his side too !!

matts52
03-26-2010, 08:52 AM
Frankly,i don't see where this post is going,If a guy has a problem with a fella he should take it up with him,not bash him on the internet(to which I can Guarantee Bruce don't give a crap about or even look at).I'm a small business fella and can attest to "can't make everybody happy",so obviously they will be the ones on the soap box yelling.Bruce has been in the business for a long time and most likley will have sucess even with the ones on this thread who are not satisfied,and the one who will never be happy.
He has done work for me and does a great job,and answers his phone(except during hunting season)he did work when he said but also took longer too,guess what, I'm still here and eveything is fine.
Also, I would guess if a guy would tick him off YOU Can Bet he won't return your calls or emails,its just Bruce.
These types of post really piss me off,why doesn't someone post something that can help shooters groups or how to read winds at 1000yds.

VETTE 04
03-26-2010, 09:05 AM
Im glad someone in the BR class put an ease to this THREAD. They sure do beat one to death when they can..... Whey to go Matt...

Jeff in OH
03-26-2010, 10:14 AM
Frankly,i don't see where this post is going,If a guy has a problem with a fella he should take it up with him,not bash him on the internet(to which I can Guarantee Bruce don't give a crap about or even look at).I'm a small business fella and can attest to "can't make everybody happy",so obviously they will be the ones on the soap box yelling.Bruce has been in the business for a long time and most likley will have sucess even with the ones on this thread who are not satisfied,and the one who will never be happy.
He has done work for me and does a great job,and answers his phone(except during hunting season)he did work when he said but also took longer too,guess what, I'm still here and eveything is fine.
Also, I would guess if a guy would tick him off YOU Can Bet he won't return your calls or emails,its just Bruce.
These types of post really piss me off,why doesn't someone post something that can help shooters groups or how to read winds at 1000yds.

WOW! You must be the ONLY small business "fella" who has never been screwed over! All I am advising is GET STUFF IN WRITING NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH. People get old and forget sh!t all the time. I've been to his shop twice, not that that counts for anything.

oneflyer
03-26-2010, 10:23 AM
All good gunsmiths, and I count Bruce as one of the very few, are in the midst of the busiest time of the year. Everybody needs their work done NOW. Well answering the phone for you doesn't get your work or anybody else's work done in a more timely manner. Any work I have ever had Bruce do for me was of the highest quality. Bruce stands behind his work for quality and has always been there when ever I needed help.
I do not know of ANY stocker in the country that will get you a stock in a month. Most are a year away from delivery. Even the Richard's piece of crap has a 10 week wait.
Washing your "dirty laundry" on public does no one any good. Be a man and sort it out with Bruce man to man.

VETTE 04
03-26-2010, 10:32 AM
You tell um ONEFLYER.....:)

Jeff in OH
03-26-2010, 11:55 AM
Ya'll (you'ns in PA) need to go re-read the thread and stop lumping everyone into one group. I have nothing on order with Baer and never will again; simply one.....of apparently many....who have not had the best of dealings. Remember the addage "one "oh sh!t" wipes out 100 atta-boys." I look at it like this: if someone wants to screw me over in a business transaction, it is their decision and right to do so, it then becomes my right to "recover" my loss in costing them future business.

I will disagree with you on the timing thing. I ordered a stock from one of the best stockers in the world and it was done in 3 weeks, well before what they quoted me. So yes, CUSTOMER SERVICE counts.

Since moving to another TOP-NOTCH 1000 Yard gunsmith, I have found my turnaround times on complete builds to be about half OR LESS than they were on my first two 1000 Yard guns. So yes, CUSTOMER SERVICE counts again.

By all means, continue the love-fest, just know not everyone is going to come to the party.

BountyHunter
03-26-2010, 08:46 PM
Jeff

Not a love fest, but you seem to want us to join your hate fest because you have hurt feelings, they peed in your wheaties, gave you a wedgie or something.

You have a well documented history of taking every opportunity to jump on a couple people here on the internet instead of working it out with them.

If you feel so strongly about them that you cannot miss any opportunity to jump on them over the safety of the internet, why not "grow a pair" and arrange to meet both of them face to face and settle once and for all. Afterward you can kiss and make up or agree to keep it it private so we do not have listen to your insistent internet whining about them.

Now let it go or go work it out but pretty sure no one wants to hear anymore why you are always personally slighted and have hurt feelings.)chill(

Herman Harke aka BountyHunter) Just so you do not think I am trying to hide behind a 40yr old handle that I still use!

Jeff in OH
03-26-2010, 09:38 PM
Jeff

Not a love fest, but you seem to want us to join your hate fest because you have hurt feelings, they peed in your wheaties, gave you a wedgie or something.

You have a well documented history of taking every opportunity to jump on a couple people here on the internet instead of working it out with them.

If you feel so strongly about them that you cannot miss any opportunity to jump on them over the safety of the internet, why not "grow a pair" and arrange to meet both of them face to face and settle once and for all. Afterward you can kiss and make up or agree to keep it it private so we do not have listen to your insistent internet whining about them.

Now let it go or go work it out but pretty sure no one wants to hear anymore why you are always personally slighted and have hurt feelings.)chill(

Herman Harke aka BountyHunter) Just so you do not think I am trying to hide behind a 40yr old handle that I still use!


Herman, I know who you are and what your handle is. Kindly ignore my posts or put me on your "sh!t list" so they don't show up. Either way I don't care. Last I knew this was a still a public forum where we can speak freely, good or bad. I don't give a crap if anyone joins anything, not forming a club for "wedgies" or any other purpose.

If you would care to go back and READ the entire thread, I was actually trying to explain why the gentleman may need to wait for his stock if Bruce did hurt himself as Bruce does the inletting but Gerry makes the stock blanks. Only then did everyone confuse me with the guy waiting for the stock so I had to clear that little piece up, sorry I had to explain it too bluntly for you or anyone else.

You know, I have as much propensity to tell people about good transactions as bad. I would share who I have had good dealings with here on the stock and recent builds, but neither are board sponsors, so I don't "advertise" for them on this board.

FWIW, Bruce and I have been to several matches together since our "issue" and we are able to go about our business of competing cordially. He knows where I stand and I know where he stands and we leave it at that. If anything needed said we've both had the chances. Good enough for you? Or do I still need to "grow" something?

Oh, here's some good news...I still use both the guns he built! There, that's something positive for the group hug!!!

As for the other party, nothing more needs said.

MOTORSPORTS55
04-08-2010, 10:57 PM
There is two sides to every story and i dont see bruce on here bashing you !!!

Lynn
04-09-2010, 01:33 AM
There are two sides too every case on Judge Judy as well and when the show starts they are without exception both claiming to be the most truthful people on planet earth.After about 3 minutes has passed one of them is always a big fat liar.

Anyone needing a competitive stock should just give Bill Shehane a call and be done with it.
Waterboy

jghoghunter
04-09-2010, 06:15 AM
I agree with lynn. I had trouble getting my 1st br stock from others and called Bill one day and he had what I wanted, in the color I wanted, in stock. I had it in 3 days and I had waited 22 weeks from the other vendor with another 6 to wait as of that day I placed my order with Bill.

MRogersII
04-12-2010, 10:43 PM
I shot for a couple of years and then decided that the travel schedule was too much with young children at home, so I stopped competing. I do like to stop by the site once in awhile just to keep up with things.

Bruce did most all of my work at that time, for about 3 years. Everything that he did took longer than he said it would. Often times it cost more too. This was the case time and time again.

That being said, when Bruce was finished I had two guns that were a thing of beauty. He built me a LG that shot the lights out and I won a whole bunch of matches with it (4 in 1 day, one time). He also built me an awesome HG that was in a caliber that he told me would not be competitive, but I wanted it anyway. That big 338 was a field day to shoot whether I won with it or not, most of the time the LG won enough to make up for it.

In addition to this, I probably asked him a thousand or so stupid questions and he answered them all.

Somethings are worth waiting for and Bruce's guns always were for me. I'm sure there are other good smiths out there, I know Clay is one of them. If I decided to compete again, I would want Bruce to build them.

Most folks have some amount of flaws and surely Bruce is no exception, he does build an awesome gun though.

M. Rogers II