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M.D.Spencer
01-04-2008, 09:00 AM
I picked up a box of 9mm Russia ammo and I can't read the writing. http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4425/ammo001mediumwebviewgg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thank you if you can. Mark

GS Arizona
01-04-2008, 09:38 AM
I think it's in Swedish.

caroby
01-04-2008, 09:46 AM
Think German is right.... Finish, Swedish, Norwegian.....
Might try a web translator... I tried http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr

But no Nordic translation option....
cale

Stonewall
01-04-2008, 09:48 AM
http://cartridgecollectors.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=533795429af9570e5169664f82d68805



http://www.amkat.se/9x19/9x19.html


Calibre 9x19
Model 9mm KPtr m/39
Projectile form Ogival
Projectile weight 1,43 Gram
Projectile material Plastic and steel
Projectile type Gallery projectile
Colour markings Black projectile. Blue neck and primer.
V0 mps 350 mps
V0 fps
Propellant Åkb 117
Propellant weight Gram 0,26 Gram
Propellant weight Grain
Gallery practice ammunition is used for short range practice with Submachine gun m/45 and m/45B. When using gallery practice ammunition the blank firing barrel without the blank firing device is to be used. Is to be used up to 30 meters. The projectile is made of plastic with a 5,2mm steel ball that weights ca 0,5gram embedded in the tip. When fired, the plastic gets shredded, and the steel ball continues as projectile. The steel ball on the picture is in a bad shape. Its rusty.





Glenn:D

WalkerTXRanger
01-04-2008, 09:52 AM
That is not Russian...

GS Arizona
01-04-2008, 10:12 AM
I sent the picture to a friend in Sweden, we'll see if he gets it and if he can do anything with it.

P.Ericson
01-04-2008, 10:29 AM
As some has said, it´s Swedish:) Let´s see

36st --> 36pieces
9mm Kptr m/39 --> 9mm sub-machinegun cartidge model/39
Får endast användas i vapen med lösskjutningspipa utan lösskjutningsskydd. --> Only to be used in weapon with "blankfire barrel" and without blankfire divice/attachment attached.

All blank ammunition nowadays are in red boxes, and with red markings on the cases. Maybe they were blue before? Maybe someone else knows?

P.Ericson
01-04-2008, 10:38 AM
Ahh, stonewall was faster then me:rolleyes:

GS Arizona
01-04-2008, 11:42 AM
It's now been posted twice, but since there's a drop more information here, I'll post what my friend sent me:

Yes it’s swedish and it says:

36 pcs

9 mm machingun cartridges model 1939

May only to be used in (now I’m not sure what is in english but it says) trainingbarrel WHITHOUT training apparatus.

The numbers at the bottom says they are manufactured by NORMA the ”070” indicates that rest is just lot #.

These shots was made with a ”plastic” bullet actually not really plastic, it was that kind telephones was made from in the therties if you get what I mean.

There was also a small steelball in the tip , it was meant to be used at very short range just for training purposes.

Why is it 36pcs in the box , yes thats right the mags for our Carl Gustav m/45 hold 36 shoots.

I can also add that we actually compete in our national shooting program with the m/45B as it i called, one can be Swedish champion in submachin gunning.

Yes all is well over and a Happy new year to all of you guys over ther.

Wish I could make trip to you a visit some of your shooting and bring my rifle.

Tom C.
01-04-2008, 12:52 PM
do you mean bakelite

GS Arizona
01-04-2008, 01:04 PM
I think that's what he meant. Everything in that post after the first line is the text of my friend in Sweden's reply to me.

M.D.Spencer
01-04-2008, 03:19 PM
Lots of info to take to work tonight. Did the picture show up when you fellas clicked on this post? Just wondering.... Mark :)

Doug Knowles
01-04-2008, 05:49 PM
It's now been posted twice, but since there's a drop more information here, I'll post what my friend sent me:

Yes it’s swedish and it says:

36 pcs

9 mm machingun cartridges model 1939

May only to be used in (now I’m not sure what is in english but it says) trainingbarrel WHITHOUT training apparatus.

The numbers at the bottom says they are manufactured by NORMA the ”070” indicates that rest is just lot #.

These shots was made with a ”plastic” bullet actually not really plastic, it was that kind telephones was made from in the therties if you get what I mean.

There was also a small steelball in the tip , it was meant to be used at very short range just for training purposes.

Why is it 36pcs in the box , yes thats right the mags for our Carl Gustav m/45 hold 36 shoots.

I can also add that we actually compete in our national shooting program with the m/45B as it i called, one can be Swedish champion in submachin gunning.

Yes all is well over and a Happy new year to all of you guys over ther.

Wish I could make trip to you a visit some of your shooting and bring my rifle.

Might be bakeolite. Safe safe, Doug:D