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Apollo
01-02-2008, 04:58 PM
I am going to be new to benchrest competition soon. I have the opportunity to purchase a 6 ppc with a BAT or a Kelby Grizzly action. Pretty much the rest of the rifle and price is identical. From what I've heard, most of what is around me is 100-200 yd group shooting - so that is where I would start and learn from there. Which one (BAT or Kelby) would you go with? Thanks in advance.

Stanley

HovisKM
01-02-2008, 04:59 PM
Shoot them both and pick the best one. Other than that, it's a coin toss.

Hovis

Edwin D
01-02-2008, 05:30 PM
Apollo,

no one knows if your shoes fit except YOU.

expiper
01-02-2008, 05:45 PM
Get the one with cone breaching....if they both have it .....it is a tough decesion ....I shoot Kelbly actions because of the ability of a gunsmith to chamber a bbl for it and never have the action at his shop...that way I can shoot till the new bbl arrives...no down time...Roger

jackie schmidt
01-02-2008, 06:39 PM
Both are state of the art Benchrest Actions, well engineered, well machined, and proven in competition.
Toss a coin, and let fate decide..........jackie

333smitty
01-02-2008, 09:42 PM
I asked this question awhile back on the gunsmith forum
and got the same answers that are being given now.

Both are great platforms to start with...Vic

Dusty Stevens
01-02-2008, 11:13 PM
Get the one with cone breaching....if they both have it .....it is a tough decesion ....I shoot Kelbly actions because of the ability of a gunsmith to chamber a bbl for it and never have the action at his shop...that way I can shoot till the new bbl arrives...no down time...Roger



a gunsmith can do the same with a BAT

tillroot1
01-02-2008, 11:49 PM
I am going to be new to benchrest competition soon. I have the opportunity to purchase a 6 ppc with a BAT or a Kelby Grizzly action. Pretty much the rest of the rifle and price is identical. From what I've heard, most of what is around me is 100-200 yd group shooting - so that is where I would start and learn from there. Which one (BAT or Kelby) would you go with? Thanks in advance.

Stanley

I own both and can say that the BAT has a smoother bolt cycle, not bashing one or the other, I just feel that there is less upset when cycling the bolt.

Ron Tilley

Pete Wass
01-03-2008, 06:47 AM
I own both and can say that the BAT has a smoother bolt cycle, not bashing one or the other, I just feel that there is less upset when cycling the bolt.

Ron Tilley

In my opinion, all of the current actions on the market are suitable for a rifle but I have never cycled a bolt that was as smooth as the BAT. I had one a couple of years ago and am sorry I sold it.

Dick Grosbier
01-03-2008, 08:40 AM
So I guess I would have to say I prefer Bats.
Still have my trusty Teddy though.

glp
01-03-2008, 11:09 AM
In my opinion, all of the current actions on the market are suitable for a rifle but I have never cycled a bolt that was as smooth as the BAT. I had one a couple of years ago and am sorry I sold it.

always are!! :)

Dave Short
01-03-2008, 05:22 PM
There sure are a lot of good choices out there....ain't it great?

I've noticed that most of the replies mention the Stolle Panda and the Bat. I agree completely, and find it interesting that they are mentioned together.... even though they are very different from one another. One can choose between them based on the features they like most. Finally,......don't overlook the Borden, Farley, etc, etc.

I prefer the Pandas myself; I have three that I'm very happy with. I have to admit, though, that the details of the Borden bolt & related parts have often occupied my mind.....hmmm.....it is nice to have so many choices.

-Dave-:)

tinman
01-03-2008, 06:08 PM
I have a BAT and do like it alot. I have shot many Pandas which I also like but ended up with a BAT, cant hardly go wrong with either one so it seems. But you ask about the Grizzly which is stainless I believe alot like the BAT design but I have never handled one so I cant compare those 2.

JSchopper
01-03-2008, 07:14 PM
a gunsmith can do the same with a BAT

Jim Borden can also do that with either his new Rimrock actions or the older TPEs. I have many many barrels chambered by Jim in PA, while my rifle is still shooting in Nevada:eek:;):D

dcrunk
01-04-2008, 11:02 PM
All rifles don't shoot to the same winning level. Buy the one with the best winning record.

Don
SE Nebraska