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345 DeSoto
12-27-2007, 12:38 PM
Hi guys. New guy here...but not new to shooting. I have a pretty straight forward question about reloading for my varmint rifle. It's a Savage, Model 10, 22" barrel, 1:12 twist, standard blued steel barrel. The accuracy out of the box is great, however, I've been using UMC 45 grain hollow points and I KNOW that I can get better groups by hand loading with the proper grain weight (for a 1:12 twist) and optimum components. I will be using my once fired UMC cases (full length sized) and an RCBS Competition die set/ Rock Chucker press, and an RCBS 1500 Chargemaster Combo Scale. I've pretty much settled on Berger bullets, due to their uniformity. The BIG question is what/how much powder to use, and which primers (best brand/type). I need accuracy above ALL else, with as flat a trajectory as I can get. I will be using the rifle for 'chucks out to 400-600 yards, but I don't need hunting bullets if accuracy is compromised.
I sure could use some expert advice here. Thanks in advance for ANY advice...I know it's a pretty open ended question...

S.G
12-27-2007, 01:35 PM
Each rifle is different, so there is probably no load that will be perfect. I use 30gr of 10x with a cci primer. Sounds to me that you have a misconception of how far and how accurate a 22-250 realy is. Stay with shorter more reasonable distances , and you will be much happyer. You are trying to use to light a bullet and the wrong twist for that kind of distance. Good luck

John Scope
12-27-2007, 05:54 PM
DeSoto:

Getting a flat trajectory means velocity in this case, and a 22" barrel is at some disadvantage trying to use all the powder in a .22-250 case. That being said, I would explore the use of H380 and Varget as two powders worthy of experimentation.

Since you want accuracy above all else, it would be wise to rethink full length resizing and neck size only. I would play with 50 and 55 grain bullets to achieve your goals.

John

7mm tom
12-28-2007, 02:50 AM
i am a keen juinor shooter, and have a few guns between myself and my dad. for christmas my dad bought me a weatherby vangaurd in 22-250. i have just bought some nosler 55 grain ballistictip, and sierra matchking 55 grain hpbt projectiles. i was wondering if anyone could give me some loading info on this calibre and some target loads preferably using ADI powder.

thanks

345 DeSoto
12-28-2007, 07:42 AM
I have settled on 55 grain bullets, and have a few powders in mind (IMR 4320 & H380). For my barrel length, should I be leaning toward a fast powder...and along with that, is there a list of available powders by burning speed? What type should I be lookng for in a primer?...

Stan Pollak
12-28-2007, 09:12 AM
The CCi BR-2's have about half the std. dev.(sd.) than regular primers-16/18fps. vs. 32/36fps. Share your sport-Stan-:)

345 DeSoto
12-28-2007, 09:14 PM
I emailed Berger Bullets asking the same questions, and Walter Berger was kind enough to send this to me...
Hi Tony,
It appears that you want to use the 55 grain target/varmint bullet and it is a good choice for wood chucks to 400 yards. Your 1-12 does afford you an opportunity to shoot a heavier bullet and the 60 grain bullet would be a somewhat better at 400 yards. Having shot a lot of wood chucks in Ohio with a 22-250 when I was growing up I can relate to your problem. There is no one bullet that is the best for all distances so you have a couple of choices. If most (+80%) of your shoots are true 400 yard shots then the 60 grain bullet would be the best choice. If (+80%) are from muzzle to 300 yards I would use the 52 or 55 grain target varmint bullet and give up a little on the 400 yard shoots. Now there is another choice (and this may not be for you) use the 52 grain varmint bullet for muzzle to 300 yards and the 60 grain target varmint bullet for the shoots beyond 300 yards. This would require a good scope with reliable elevation adjustments and have a zero for both bullets. This is the ultimate (my opinion) for reliable hits with your 22-250 and spectacular kills at all ranges from muzzle to 400 plus yards. Again this is not for every one you have to know your equipment and understand how to use it. If this is not for you use the 55 grain target varmint bullet from muzzle to 400 yards and it is a good choice. Have furnished you some load data for the 52-55 and 60 grain bullets. The two powders I used the most was IMR 4064 and H380. I no longer varmint hunt and some of the newer powders could be better. Your 22 inch barrel will result in approximately 88 fps slower than the velocities we list with a 26 inch barrel. All of the primers are good just use the one you are familiar with and develop your load data with it. Load data was generated using Quick Load and a 26 inch barrel and a COAL of 2.350 inches and your COAL and velocity could be a little different.

Walt Berger
Berger Bullets
Technical Adviser



22/250 Rem
Bullet Powder /Start Load /Approximate Start Velocity/ Max Load/ Approximate Max Velocity /Fill Ratio
52 Grain IMR 4064 32.0 3389 35.5 3734 96.7%
52 Grain VARGET 32.0 3395 36.0 3780 95.4%
52 Grain AA XMR 4064 32.5 3385 36.3 3754 100.0%
52 Grain RE-15 33.0 3446 36.5 3795 97.2%
52 Grain NORMA 203B 33.5 3480 35.0 3629 93.2%
52 Grain Ramshot Big Game 34.5 3401 38.5 3793 102.0%
52 Grain VIHT N140 32.0 3392 36.0 3756 97.8%
52 Grain WIN 760 36.0 3372 40.0 3782 101.1%
52 Grain IMR 4895 31.5 3401 35.2 3772 95.9%
52 Grain IMR 4320 32.0 3321 35.8 3698 93.8%
52 Grain VIHT N150 33.5 3371 37.0 3704 99.7%
52 Grain H380 36.0 3344 39.8 3734 102.7%

52 Grain H4895 31.5 3377 35.0 3702 94.3%
52 Grain BENCHMARK 30.5 3404 34.0 3731 91.6%






22/250 Rem
Bullet Powder Start Load /Approximate Start Velocity/ Max Load / Approximate Max Velocity /Fill Ratio
55 Grain IMR 4064 31.5 3321 35.5 3708 97.4%
55 Grain VARGET 31.5 3326 35.5 3705 94.8%
55 Grain AA XMR 4064 32.5 3369 36.0 3699 99.9%
55 Grain RE-15 32.0 3330 35.3 3656 94.7%
55 Grain NORMA 203B 32.5 3365 34.3 3542 92.1%
55 Grain RAMSHOT BIG GAME 34.0 3340 37.7 3697 100.7%
55 Grain VIHT N140 31.5 3322 35.4 3669 96.9%
55 Grain WIN 760 35.5 3317 39.5 3721 100.6%
55 Grain IMR 4895 31.5 3383 35.7 3793 97.9%
55 Grain IMR 4320 32.5 3355 36.5 3742 96.4%
55 Grain VIHT N135 31.0 3324 34.5 3637 96.8%
55 Grain H380 35.5 3288 39.7 3719 103.2%
55 Grain BENCHMARK 30.0 3330 33.6 3660 91.2%






22/250 Rem
Bullet Powder Start Load /Approximate Start Velocity/ Max Load /Approximate Max Velocity /Fill Ratio
60 Grain IMR 4320 32.0 3278 35.4 3598 94.7%
60 Grain H380 34.5 3179 38.5 3574 101.3%
60 Grain RE-15 31.5 3256 34.8 3521 94.6%
60 Grain AA XMR 4350 34,0 3163 37.6 3534 102.2%
60 Grain NORMA 203B 32.5 3337 34.3 3508 93.2%
60 Grain RAMSHOT BIG GAME 33.5 3271 37.4 3635 101.1%
60 Grain VIHT N150 31.5 3139 35.2 3422 96.7%
60 Grain WW 760 35.0 3258 38.9 3642 100.3%
60 Grain H414 34.5 3206 38.1 3551 96.2%
60 Grain VARGET 31.0 3245 34.4 3558 93.0%
60 Grain IMR 4064 31.0 3242 34.4 3561 95.6%

1bamashooter
12-28-2007, 09:47 PM
The post above is why I shoot Berger bullets.:D

Bnhpr
12-29-2007, 03:32 PM
38 grains of H380 with 55 grain Ballistic tips have never let me down with my 22-250. H380 throws nice too, so throw it at 37.5 and trickle it to 38 with a trickler.