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TrxR
12-06-2018, 04:48 PM
Putting a list together for a 30br 100yd score rifle.

Im a debating between a bat (not sure which model) or a Panda. Any opinions?

Also looking at a Mcmillan EDGE benchrest stock but am not sure if it would be a good option or not?

Thanks

rkittine
12-06-2018, 06:06 PM
I had my 30BR Score Rifle built on a BAT B action with a Krieger Barrel, Jewel Trigger and a Tracker Stock.

Bob

jackie schmidt
12-07-2018, 01:47 PM
Since you are building a 13.5 pound Rifle, that opens up your choice in a stock.

Get a stock that already has the added material of a HV. Sticking a weight system in a 24 ounce stock to get the weight up does not make it suitable for a 30BR HV.

In my opinion, the best out of the box action is still a Panda. They got it right years ago, and unless something has changed, they still have it right. How often do we hear about about all of the tricks that notable gunsmiths have to do to other brands to make them competitive?

The rest is pretty standard stuff.

Butch Lambert
12-07-2018, 06:11 PM
Mine is a Bat, but if I started over I would buy a Panda.

TrxR
12-07-2018, 06:15 PM
Whats is everyones opinion on a Borden BRM?

Butch Lambert
12-07-2018, 06:22 PM
Whats is everyones opinion on a Borden BRM?

Jim makes great product. I have not used one though.

jackie schmidt
12-07-2018, 07:37 PM
Whats is everyones opinion on a Borden BRM?

I saw one for sale by a shooter in Houston. I should have bought it.

All of Bordens products are top notch in every aspect.

The only new action I have bought in two years was a Bat Nuevo.i bought it specifically because of the different lug configuration when the bolt is closed. The lugs are horizontal instead of Verticle in battery.

R.G. Robinett
12-07-2018, 08:57 PM
Since you are building a 13.5 pound Rifle, that opens up your choice in a stock.

Get a stock that already has the added material of a HV. Sticking a weight system in a 24 ounce stock to get the weight up does not make it suitable for a 30BR HV.

In my opinion, the best out of the box action is still a Panda. They got it right years ago, and unless something has changed, they still have it right. How often do we hear about about all of the tricks that notable gunsmiths have to do to other brands to make them competitive?

The rest is pretty standard stuff.

Jackie nailed this!:cool: It's not easy to make a 13.5# rifle.:p

Action choice can be pretty subjective/personal: Kelbly's, Borden, & BAT are all good - on BR rigs, I have two BAT, four Borden RimRock, and one Time-Precision (Borden trued). :) RG

michaeljp65
12-08-2018, 02:31 AM
Since you are building a 13.5 pound Rifle, that opens up your choice in a stock.

Get a stock that already has the added material of a HV. Sticking a weight system in a 24 ounce stock to get the weight up does not make it suitable for a 30BR HV.

In my opinion, the best out of the box action is still a Panda. They got it right years ago, and unless something has changed, they still have it right. How often do we hear about about all of the tricks that notable gunsmiths have to do to other brands to make them competitive?

The rest is pretty standard stuff.

So are you saying rebarreling a 10.5lb LV 6PPC Panda to a 30BR without adding any weight to shoot in the heavy class is not worth the trouble?

adamsgt
12-08-2018, 03:29 PM
So are you saying rebarreling a 10.5lb LV 6PPC Panda to a 30BR without adding any weight to shoot in the heavy class is not worth the trouble?

I bought a 30 BR on a Teddy action at a gun show. I didn't ask or realize it was a 10.5 gun. I shot it a few times and then had a 30 BR chambered for my 6 ppc HV gun. Shooting the 30 BR in that light gun was somewhat punishing.

michaeljp65
12-08-2018, 06:27 PM
I bought a 30 BR on a Teddy action at a gun show. I didn't ask or realize it was a 10.5 gun. I shot it a few times and then had a 30 BR chambered for my 6 ppc HV gun. Shooting the 30 BR in that light gun was somewhat punishing.

ok cheers for that Adam. I might have to have a bit of a re think.

R.G. Robinett
12-08-2018, 07:57 PM
So are you saying rebarreling a 10.5lb LV 6PPC Panda to a 30BR without adding any weight to shoot in the heavy class is not worth the trouble?


Not saying that. Saying that if you want a Heavy VT (13.5#) Rifle, get a heavier stock. If you want to stay LV, that'll work just fine: it will have a little more recoil energy. RG

TrxR
12-08-2018, 08:08 PM
What stock would you all suggest looking at?

Also what length barrel and profile?

We dont have a weight limit here . Our only rule are cant be 1 piece rest, front rest must use sand bag, rear must be a sand bag, forearm width can be no more than 3 inches.


Thanks

michaeljp65
12-08-2018, 08:51 PM
Not saying that. Saying that if you want a Heavy VT (13.5#) Rifle, get a heavier stock. If you want to stay LV, that'll work just fine: it will have a little more recoil energy. RG

OK cheers R.G.R

JerrySharrett
12-11-2018, 07:24 AM
Putting a list together for a 30br 100yd score rifle.

Im a debating between a bat (not sure which model) or a Panda. Any opinions?

Also looking at a Mcmillan EDGE benchrest stock but am not sure if it would be a good option or not?

Thanks

Terry leonard at tstocks1@charter,net has made several winning HV stocks that are balanced and inletted to fit your action.


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Wilbur
12-12-2018, 07:45 AM
What stock would you all suggest looking at?

Also what length barrel and profile?

We dont have a weight limit here . Our only rule are cant be 1 piece rest, front rest must use sand bag, rear must be a sand bag, forearm width can be no more than 3 inches.

Thanks

Regardless of your existing no weight limit...someday you might want to sell the rifle.

jackie schmidt
12-12-2018, 09:56 AM
Regardless of your existing no weight limit...someday you might want to sell the rifle.

I agree, Wilbur. A legal 13.5 Heavy Varmint is plenty of weight to tame a 30 BR down.

In these small Benchrest Chamberings, stacking more weight on is really a exercise in diminishing returns. You reach a point where it is just right.

TrxR
12-12-2018, 03:37 PM
Whats the current consensus on barrel length and profile and twist rate?

Is the mcmilla edge benchrest stock a decent option for HV? I have to find a stock that is available to be shipped to Canada. There is also a guy in Canada reproducing some of the Robertson stocks.

Thanks

brcman
12-12-2018, 06:05 PM
Can you tell us more of the person in Canada reproducing the Robertson stocks?

TrxR
12-12-2018, 06:12 PM
Can you tell us more of the person in Canada reproducing the Robertson stocks?

I am still trying to get more info myself. Ill post any info i find.

jackie schmidt
12-12-2018, 06:20 PM
Whats the current consensus on barrel length and profile and twist rate?


I shoot a 1-18 twist, # 17 Krieger HV. I start out at 22 1/2 inches, keep setting them back untill it's illegal.

The best barrel I have is on it's 3d setback and is down to 19 3/4'inches. It's about 10'years old. I have no idea how many rounds have been down it.

retired
12-12-2018, 07:32 PM
did you settle on a bullet ?
barts x out ?


I shoot a 1-18 twist, # 17 Krieger HV. I start out at 22 1/2 inches, keep setting them back untill it's illegal.

The best barrel I have is on it's 3d setback and is down to 19 3/4'inches. It's about 10'years old. I have no idea how many rounds have been down it.

Jim Pag
12-14-2018, 10:27 PM
I have won my fair share of matches and have set three records, 2 with the VFS and one with the hunter (really a vh as it is a 30br also). The last record is 250-25x with 22 wipe outs. The actions will perform fine as will many others. How it is built and put together is just as important as the components, maybe more so. The best action poorly bedded at an improper angle isn't going to perform as well as a "lesser" action perfectly bedded. Invest in a proven BR gunsmith. You sound like Capt Briggs in Sudden Impact. Your a legend in your own mind Jarvais. LMFAO!!!

jackie schmidt
12-15-2018, 12:09 AM
did you settle on a bullet ?
barts x out ?

I shoot both Barts and BIB's.